Fwd: Re: Quantum Computing Puts Encrypted Messages at Risk (fwd)

2002-07-14 Thread Jim Choate
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 15:24:48 +0200 From: Amir Herzberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: Re: Quantum Computing Puts Encrypted Messages at Risk >At 20:50 11/07/2002, Ian wrote: >>When I first read The Code Book (Simon Singh), I dro

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Re: Fwd: Re: Quantum Computing Puts Encrypted Messages at Risk (fwd)

2002-07-14 Thread Jim Choate
Random photons in optical systems are easy to get at hight speed, a flame. BEC's also have the capability to make some significant breaks in the security of optical encryption. For example, one can trap a photon in a BEC, measure it's parameters at one of the BEC-component atoms, then re-emit th

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On Sunday, July 14, 2002, at 05:45 AM, gfgs pedo wrote: > hi, > > Does a fair coin exist in real world? > > Like as according to Allan Turing-an event is defined > by set of certain parameters governing the event at > that instant. > > by redoing the same experiment-do we always have the > same

Re: Atmospheric noise & fair coin flipping

2002-07-14 Thread Optimizzin Al-gorithym
At 05:45 AM 7/14/02 -0700, gfgs pedo wrote: >it is said that atmospheric noise is random but how >can we say for sure. Physics, chaos, the growth of initial uncertainty as systems evolve, energy/time required to make measurements to arbitrary precision. >what if the parameters giverning atmosph

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At 03:21 PM 7/14/02 +0100, Ben Laurie wrote: >Eric Cordian wrote: >> Still, Nature abhors overcomplexification, and plain old quantum mechanics >> works just fine for predicting the results of experiments. > >Oh yeah? So predict when this radioactive isotope will decay, if you please. You mean "t

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2002-07-14 Thread Jim Choate
On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Tim May wrote: > On Sunday, July 14, 2002, at 05:45 AM, gfgs pedo wrote: > You ask a lot of questions. I encourage you to find some of the basic > books, use Google, and to think deeply about questions before phrasing > them here. Ignore Tim. Keep asking your questions.

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Re: CDR: Re: Which universe are we in? (tossing tennis balls into spinning props)

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On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Optimizzin Al-gorithym wrote: > And while QM can't help you with a particular atom, it also doesn't say > that its impossible that knowledge of internal states of the atom > wouldn't help you predict its fragmentation. Other rules do; Uncertaintly Principle, 2nd Law for sta

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