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2002-07-01 Thread gfgs pedo
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Re: Ross's TCPA paper

2002-07-01 Thread Ben Laurie
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Re: maximize best case, worst case, or average case? (TCPA

2002-07-01 Thread xganon
Ryan Lackey provides a detailed analysis, but he gets off to a bad start right at the beginning: > DRM systems embedded in general purpose computers, especially if > mandated, especially if implemented in the most secure practical > manner (running the system in system-high DRM mode and not allow

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Re: maximize best case, worst case, or average case? (TCPA

2002-07-01 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 7:25 PM -0500 on 6/30/02, xganon wrote: > The only evil here is the viewpoint that people must not have choices, > that they must be forced into a Communist from-each-according-to-his- > ability system where creative people have no choice or control over the > products of their minds. All th

on 'evil' as an abbreviation (Re: maximize best case, worst case, or average case?)

2002-07-01 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 07:25 PM 6/30/02 -0500, xganon wrote: >Ryan Lackey provides a detailed analysis, but he gets off to a bad start >right at the beginning: > >> DRM systems embedded in general purpose computers, especially if >> mandated, especially if implemented in the most secure practical >> manner (running t

Re: Ross's TCPA paper

2002-07-01 Thread Anonymous
[Repost] Bear writes: > A few years ago merchants were equally adamant and believed > equally in the rightness of maintaining their "right" to not > do business with blacks, chicanos, irish, and women. It'll > pass as people wake up and smell the coffee. Unfortunately > that won't be until aft

Re: maximize best case, worst case, or average case? (TCPA

2002-07-01 Thread jamesd
-- On 1 Jul 2002 at 22:10, Anonymous wrote: > The fact is that the market can't solve this kind of problem. > That's right, markets are not perfect. [] But information > objects, absent successful DRM restrictions, are effectively > public goods. Markets do not handle public goods well.

Re: Ross's TCPA paper

2002-07-01 Thread Tim May
On Monday, July 1, 2002, at 02:23 PM, Anonymous wrote: > [Repost] > > Bear writes: > >> A few years ago merchants were equally adamant and believed >> equally in the rightness of maintaining their "right" to not >> do business with blacks, chicanos, irish, and women. It'll >> pass as people wak

Re: maximize best case, worst case, or average case? (TCPA

2002-07-01 Thread Gabriel Rocha
On Mon, Jul 01, at 10:10PM, Anonymous wrote: | Brilliant. Let the market solve the problem. Why bother with the auction | part, then? If the market's going to solve the problem for the 2nd guy | to hold the copy, why not let it solve the problem for the 1st? The fact | is, quot

Re: maximize best case, worst case, or average case? (TCPA

2002-07-01 Thread R. A. Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Traffic Analysis is A Bitch, boys and girls. At 10:10 PM +0200 on 7/1/02, The Single-Remailer-Hop Anonymous Austrian Innumerate returns, writing: > They do fine for ordinary, private > goods. A signed, much less encrypted, copy of a piece of digita

Re: Ross's TCPA paper

2002-07-01 Thread Ben Laurie
Barney Wolff wrote: > My use of "anonym" was a joke. Sorry if it was too deadpan. But > my serious point was that if a pseudonym costs nothing to get or > give up, it makes one effectively anonymous, if one so chooses. Well, yeah, I'd say that single-use pseudonyms are, in fact, the definition

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2002-07-01 Thread Major Variola (ret)
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Re: Ross's TCPA paper

2002-07-01 Thread jamesd
-- On 1 Jul 2002 at 15:06, Tim May wrote: > I have strong views on all this DRM and TCPA stuff, and > especially on the claim that some form of DRM is needed to > prevent government from taking over control of the "arts." > > But we said everything that needed to be said _years_ ago. No > p

Re: Re: maximize best case, worst case, or average case? (TCPA

2002-07-01 Thread Joseph Ashwood
- Original Message - From: "Ryan Lackey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I consider DRM systems (even the not-secure, not-mandated versions) > evil due to the high likelyhood they will be used as technical > building blocks upon which to deploy mandated, draconian DRM systems. The same argument ca

Re: maximize best case, worst case, or average case? (TCPA

2002-07-01 Thread Anonymous
This is from http://mondediplo.com/2000/06/15publicgood: "What is a public good? This question can best be answered by looking at the counterpart, a private good. Private goods are typically traded in markets. Buyers and sellers meet through the price mechanism. If they agree on a price, the owne

Re: Ross's TCPA paper

2002-07-01 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > -- > On 1 Jul 2002 at 15:06, Tim May wrote: > > I have strong views on all this DRM and TCPA stuff, and > > especially on the claim that some form of DRM is needed to > > prevent government from taking over control of the "arts." > > > > But we sa

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Re: Re: maximize best case, worst case, or average case? (TCPA

2002-07-01 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 6:46 PM -0700 on 7/1/02, Joseph Ashwood wrote: > DRM is a tool. I agree. And I don't think any tool is evil, either, and, I bet, Ryan probably doesn't want to come across as a hoplophobe as you're depiction of his calling a particular technology evil makes him sound either. :-). That said,

Re: maximize best case, worst case, or average case? (TCPA

2002-07-01 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 4:02 AM +0200 on 7/2/02, AAA, the Annoying Anonymous Austrian wrote: > But you claimed that signed pieces of digital information were private > goods. Please explain. If it's encrypted, and it's on my hard drive, than it's my property. I own it, not someone else. That's a private good. I c

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Re: maximize best case, worst case, or average case? (TCPA

2002-07-01 Thread Ryan Lackey
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Re: Ross's TCPA paper

2002-07-01 Thread Tim May
On Monday, July 1, 2002, at 07:15 PM, Mike Rosing wrote: > On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> -- >> On 1 Jul 2002 at 15:06, Tim May wrote: >>> I have strong views on all this DRM and TCPA stuff, and >>> especially on the claim that some form of DRM is needed to >>> prevent gove

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2002-07-01 Thread Tim May
On Monday, July 1, 2002, at 05:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > -- > On 1 Jul 2002 at 15:06, Tim May wrote: >> I have strong views on all this DRM and TCPA stuff, and >> especially on the claim that some form of DRM is needed to >> prevent government from taking over control of the "arts."

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