Re: Piracy is wrong

2002-06-30 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Anonymous wrote: >Piracy - unauthorized copying of copyrighted material - is wrong. It >inherently involves lying, cheating and taking unfair advantage of >others. On the contrary. Piracy, when defined your way, is a basic right. If someone has information and can copy it, i

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2002-06-30 Thread Marcel Popescu
From: "gfgs pedo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > One solution suggested against the man in the middle > attack is using the interlock protocol This is the one I vaguely recalled, thank you. > All mallory would have to do is send the half of the > (n th) packet when he receives the half of (n+1)th > pack

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2002-06-30 Thread R. A. Hettinga
--- begin forwarded text Status: U Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:59:26 +0200 (CEST) From: Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: "R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Uplifting Brin On Sat, 29 Jun 2002, Tom wrote: > Ithink Brin has got som

Re: Ross's TCPA paper

2002-06-30 Thread bear
On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Barney Wolff wrote: >The trouble I have with this is that I'm not only a consumer, I'm >also a merchant, selling my own professional services. And I just >will not, ever, perform services for an anonymous client. That's >my choice, and the gov't will take it away only when

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Re: Ross's TCPA paper

2002-06-30 Thread Barney Wolff
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2002-06-30 Thread Ryan Lackey
I think dongles (and non-copyable floppies) have been around since the early 80s at least...maybe the 70s. Tamper-resistant CPU modules have been around since the ATM network, I believe, in the form of PIN processors stored inside safes) The fundamental difference between a "dongle" and a full

Re: maximize best case, worst case, or average case? (TCPA)

2002-06-30 Thread lynn . wheeler
"security modules" are also inside the swipe & pin-entry boxes that you see at check-out counters. effectively both smartcards and dongles are forms of hardware tokens the issue would be whether a smartcard form factor might be utilized in a copy protection scheme similar to TCPA paradigm ..

Re: Ross's TCPA paper

2002-06-30 Thread bear
On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, Barney Wolff wrote: >A pseudonym that I can give up at will and that can never afterwards >be traced to me is equivalent to an anonym. Actually, I don't have a problem with it being traced afterwards, if a crime has been committed and there's a search warrant or equivalent t

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Re: maximize best case, worst case, or average case? (TCPA)

2002-06-30 Thread Ryan Lackey
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > "security modules" are also inside the swipe & pin-entry boxes that you see > at check-out counters. Yep -- anything which handles PINs, specifically, and some non-ATM smartcard payment systems. > > effectively both smartcards and dongles are f

Re: Ross's TCPA paper

2002-06-30 Thread Ben Laurie
Barney Wolff wrote: > A pseudonym that I can give up at will and that can never afterwards > be traced to me is equivalent to an anonym. No, a pseudonym can be linked to stuff (such as reputation, publications, money). An anonym cannot. Cheers, Ben. -- http://www.apache-ssl.org/ben.html

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Re: Piracy is wrong

2002-06-30 Thread Sandy Harris
Anonymous wrote: > > This shouldn't have to be said, but apparently it is necessary. > > Piracy - unauthorized copying of copyrighted material - is wrong. Piracy involves someone other than a warring state attacking ships. The only recent example I can think of was the French gov't blowing up G

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Re: Ross's TCPA paper

2002-06-30 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 12:06 AM +0100 on 7/1/02, Ben Laurie wrote: > No, a pseudonym can be linked to stuff (such as reputation, > publications, money). An anonym cannot. More to the point, there is no such "thing" as an "anonym", by definition. There's no way to link the behavior of one event that an "anonym" ca

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Re: maximize best case, worst case, or average case? (TCPA

2002-06-30 Thread Ryan Lackey
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Re: Ross's TCPA paper

2002-06-30 Thread Barney Wolff
anonym n : "Mr. and Mrs. John Smith" when signed in a motel register. On Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 09:55:58PM -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote: > > More to the point, there is no such "thing" as an "anonym", by definition. -- Barney Wolff I never met a computer I didn't like.

Re: Ross's TCPA paper

2002-06-30 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 11:30 PM -0400 on 6/30/02, Barney Wolff wrote: > anonym n : "Mr. and Mrs. John Smith" when signed in a motel register. No. Pseudonym(s). Subclass "Alias". An anonym (literally, "no name", right?) is not signing the book at all, and, thus, as "nyms" go, can't exist except in your mind. Somew

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