RE: Sci Journals, authors, internet

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RE: Sci Journals, authors, internet

2002-06-13 Thread Mike Rosing
On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Lucky Green wrote: > The other half of the shears cutting away at the public's right to > entertain themselves with the artwork they purchased in any way they > please is represented by parts of the art culture of significant > political clout, in particular in Europe. Bills

Re: CDR: RE: Sci Journals, authors, internet

2002-06-13 Thread Tom
On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 06:27:04AM -0700, Mike Rosing wrote: > > simply dispose of the work, or use it as kindling in his fireplace, once > > he no longer desires to own it. No, you can't just burn that painting > > you bought from some street corner painter five years ago. Though you > > are perm

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Re: CDR: RE: Sci Journals, authors, internet

2002-06-13 Thread Mike Rosing
On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Tom wrote: > actually, as with most laws, the basic idea behind the "moral rights" > isn't that bad, it just got perverted. > > if used differently, the "morale rights" part could well be used to put > a limit on the corporate abuse of copyright. for example, I could > envisi

Re: Sci Journals, authors, internet

2002-06-13 Thread Ken Brown
Steve Furlong wrote: > My experience with scientific journals is more than a few years old. Do > any of youse have personal experience with publishing both several > years ago and recently? In practice these days many scientists put copies of their stuff on personal or institutional websites,

Artist's rights? [was: RE: Sci Journals, authors, internet]

2002-06-13 Thread Trei, Peter
> From: Mike Rosing[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Lucky Green wrote: > > > The other half of the shears cutting away at the public's right to > > entertain themselves with the artwork they purchased in any way they > > please is represented by parts of the art cultu

Re: Sci Journals, authors, internet

2002-06-13 Thread Ken Brown
Lucky Green wrote: > > Peter wrote: > > (Hmm, I wonder if it can be argued that making stuff intended > > for public distribution inaccessible violates the creator's > > moral rights? I know that doesn't apply in the US, but in > > other countries it might work. Moral rights can't be > > ass

Re: CDR: RE: Sci Journals, authors, internet

2002-06-13 Thread Tom
On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 07:45:18AM -0700, Mike Rosing wrote: > > if used differently, the "morale rights" part could well be used to put > > a limit on the corporate abuse of copyright. for example, I could > > envision an argument that an artist sues the RIAA for abusing his > > copyrighted works

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> On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Lucky Green wrote: > > > The other half of the shears cutting away at the public's right to > > entertain themselves with the artwork they purchased in any way they > > please is represented by parts of the art culture of significant > > political clout, in particular in Eu

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Re: Artist's rights? [was: RE: Sci Journals, authors, internet]

2002-06-13 Thread Ken Brown
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RE: Artist's rights? [was: RE: Sci Journals, authors, internet]

2002-06-13 Thread Trei, Peter
> Ken Brown[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > "Trei, Peter" wrote: > > > As an example, consider the Richard Serra's 'Tilted Arc', a 12 foot > > high, 120 foot long, 70 ton slab of rusty (and usually grafitti covered) > > steel which blocked the entrance to the main Federal building in > > lower M

Re: Sci Journals, authors, internet

2002-06-13 Thread Ken Brown
Tom wrote: [...] > - publication > the creator can control if and how his work gets published. only he may > cite from or describe his work in public as long as neither the work > nor a description of it are published with his permission. > (e.g. even the publisher can't leak stuff with

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