On Sunday, April 21, 2002, at 11:09 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Why would one want to implement a PRNG in silicon, when one can
>> easily implement a real RNG in silicon?
>
> Both applications are orthogonal. PRNG != entropy.
>
>> And if one is impl
At 08:09 AM 4/22/02 +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>> And if one is implementing a PRNG in software, it is trivial to
>> have lots of internal state (asymptotically approaching one-time
>> pad properties).
>
>Yes, but software is too slow to be able to handle >GBit data rates.
It's
>inefficient use of
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On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Tim May wrote:
> What real-life examples can you name where Gbit rates of random digits
> are actually needed?
Multimedia streams, routers. If I want to secure a near-future 10 GBit
Ethernet stream with a symmetric cypher for the duration of a few years
(periodic rekeying f
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> On 22 Apr 2002 at 0:08, Ben Laurie wrote:
> > Oh surely you can do better than that - making it
> hard to guess the seed
> > is also clearly a desirable property (and one that
> the square root "rng"
> > does not have).
U can choose any arbitrary seed(greate
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b
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Marc de Piolenc wrote:
>Ultra originated in Poland, not Britain. The wartime decryption work was
>of course carried out in Britain, but without the prewar "seed" work of
>the Poles it would probably have been futile.
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> hi,
>
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On 22 Apr 2002 at 0:08, Ben Laurie wrote:
>
> > > Oh surely you can do better than that - making it
> > hard to guess the seed
> > > is also clearly a desirable property (and one that
> > the square root "rng"
> > > does not have).
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED][SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
>
> Why would one want to implement a PRNG in silicon, when one can
> easily implement a real RNG in silicon?
>
RNGs and PRNGs serve somewhat different purposes in current
cryptographic systems. Both are useful, but it's not clear to me
that th
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Ben Laurie wrote:
>
> gfgs pedo wrote:
> >
> > hi,
> >
> > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > On 22 Apr 2002 at 0:08, Ben Laurie wrote:
> >
> > > > Oh surely you can do better than that - making it
> > > hard to guess the seed
> > > > is also clearly a desirable property (and one that
> > > the s
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On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Trei, Peter wrote:
> So my suggestion is that while hardware accelaration of PRNGs may have
> some usefulness, true RNGs need not have the same performance. I'd
> rather see people work on making the true RNGs *trustworthy*, which is
> a much more difficult problem.
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> On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Tim May wrote:
>
> > What real-life examples can you name where Gbit rates of random digits
> > are actually needed?
>
> Multimedia streams, routers. If I want to secure a near-future 10 GBit
> Ethernet st
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> > > Oh surely you can do better than that - making it
> > hard to guess the seed
> > > is also clearly a desirable property (and one that
> > the square root "rng"
> > > does not have).
> U can choose any arbitrary seed(greater
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> From: "gfgs pedo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > > > Oh surely you can do better than that - making
> it
> > > hard to guess the seed
> > > > is also clearl
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> The defining difference between the two is that if you know the
> algorithm and seed, the output of a PRNG can be reproduced,
> at a different time, place. or both. There are circumstances in
> which this is very much a desired quality.
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