RE: Announce: San Francisco Cypherpunks, Sat 2/16/02, 6pm - 225 1 1th, SF

2002-02-13 Thread Trei, Peter
> Bill Stewart[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > The San Francisco Bay Area Cypherpunks Meeting will be > Saturday, February 16, 2002, at Don Ramon's Restaurant, 225 11th St, San > Francisco. [...] For the last 4 years I've been able to arrange space at the RSA conference for the adjacent Cyp

Digital ID: You shop, they snoop?

2002-02-13 Thread Jei
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2104056,00.html Digital ID: You shop, they snoop? 09:36 Monday 11th February 2002 Stephen Shankland, CNET News.com A new plan for tagging everything from computers to shampoo bottles could make life more convenient, but it's got privacy advocates up in arm

Poindexter redux

2002-02-13 Thread Adam Shostack
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/02/13/politics/13DARP.html Chief Takes Over New Agency to Thwart Attacks on U.S. By JOHN MARKOFF > John M. Poindexter, the retired Navy admiral who was President > Ronald Reagan's national security adviser, has returned to the > Pentagon to direct a new agency that i

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Research shows just how much people hate a winner...

2002-02-13 Thread Jim Choate
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stalking requires intent to create fear

2002-02-13 Thread Optimizzin Al-gorithym
[re Kirkland, Jim Bell, etc.] http://latimes.com/news/local/la-11272feb13.story?coll=la%2Dheadlines%2Dcalifornia Stalking Law Called Too Narrow for Meg Ryan Fan Crime: Officials must prove he meant to cause fear when he broke into a Malibu home he

DC to get spycams --"no choice but to accept it"

2002-02-13 Thread Major Variola (ret)
[domestic surveillance, brinworld, big bro, pseudosecurity] NEW YORK (Reuters) - Washington police are building what will be the nation's biggest network of surveillance cameras to monitor shopping areas, streets, monuments and other public places in the U.S. capital, a move that worries civil li

Black SOAP: two-way anonymous web services

2002-02-13 Thread CDR Anonymizer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 These two documents discuss a technique for two-way anonymous software to software communication by standard interface - SOAP. The first is a new transport binding for SOAP, the second is an adaptation for two-way anonymity. Respond onlist or privat

Re: DC to get spycams --"no choice but to accept it"

2002-02-13 Thread Greg Newby
In Brin's world, there would also be cameras in the DC police departments for us to watch the watchers. More: On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 08:17:19AM -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > > [domestic surveillance, brinworld, big bro, pseudosecurity] > > NEW YORK (Reuters) - Washington police are bui

Re: DC to get spycams --"no choice but to accept it"

2002-02-13 Thread Eric Murray
On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 11:27:50AM -0500, Greg Newby wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 08:17:19AM -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > > > > [domestic surveillance, brinworld, big bro, pseudosecurity] > > > > NEW YORK (Reuters) - Washington police are building what will > > be the nation's bigg

RE: San Francisco Cypherpunks meeting schedules

2002-02-13 Thread Bill Stewart
At 08:55 AM 02/13/2002 -0500, Trei, Peter wrote: >For the last 4 years I've been able to arrange space at the RSA conference >for the adjacent Cypherpunks meeting. I apologize for not doing so this >year. There were a number of factors: Yeah, the schedule was just working that way all around. I

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Re: DC to get spycams --"no choice but to accept it"

2002-02-13 Thread Adam Shostack
Jeffery Rosen had an excellent bit in the NYTimes http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/07/magazine/07SURVEILLANCE.html?pagewanted=print on 'that model.' "Last year, Britain's violent crime rates actually increased by 4.3 percent, even though the cameras continued to proliferate. But

Re: DC to get spycams --"no choice but to accept it"

2002-02-13 Thread Jim Dixon
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Eric Murray wrote: > > > He said city officials had studied the British surveillance system, > > > which has more than 2 million cameras throughout the country, and > > > were "intrigued by that model." > > > > > > > Intrigued by the fact that cameras have almost NEVER helpe

Re: DC to get spycams --"no choice but to accept it"

2002-02-13 Thread Adam Shostack
On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 05:10:12PM +, Jim Dixon wrote: | On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Eric Murray wrote: | | > > > He said city officials had studied the British surveillance system, | > > > which has more than 2 million cameras throughout the country, and | > > > were "intrigued by that model." | >

freedom of speech, religion WINS in HA mandatory youth education camp

2002-02-13 Thread Major Variola (ret)
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/kitv/20020206/lo/1070536_1.html High School Faces Fight Over Satan Reference Kaimuki High School's dress code came under fire Tuesday from a member of the Church of Satan. The dress code singles out clothing and accessories that promote Satanism. The head of Cit

RE: Say a goodnight prayer for joshua.

2002-02-13 Thread Aimee Farr
There are MILLIONS of people that stand between that boy and evil of any sort, and support his Daddy. He might read this someday, and he'll probably come to the conclusion that his father was a tolerant man, despite perceptions to the contrary. Jim Bell was arrested for stalking "protected person

RE: Cruel and unusual punishment

2002-02-13 Thread Aimee Farr
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2002-02-13 Thread Daniel J. Boone
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In the news yesterday...

2002-02-13 Thread Meyer Wolfsheim
On the East Coast, Ashcroft announced that the US is on its "highest state of alert" for terror attacks. On the West, the DEA led an armed raid against a medical marijuana facility in San Francisco, arresting four people, stealing 600 marijuana plants, and depriving California's ill of their medi

Cali Clampdown,P.I.Gs use Dogs.

2002-02-13 Thread proffr11
http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=134445&group=webcast 2 stories on prohibition 2 and homeland fascism. On this day... 1921 -- Russia: Peter Kropotkin's funeral held in Moscow — the last public anarchist gathering & the last non-state-sponsored mass assembly in Russia for 70 years,

RE: Announce: San Francisco Cypherpunks, Sat 2/16/02, 6pm - 225 1 1th, SF

2002-02-13 Thread proffr11
>>member interests. Next year, RSA will be back at the Moscone center in SF. << Could I shoot you and still use the twinkie defense?(just kidding) >>3. Due to conflicts, I'm not out on the West Coast till Monday afternoon, so I can't host or attend the meeting personally. I'm really annoyed

Fwd: RSA Security SEC FILINGS ALERT

2002-02-13 Thread proffr11
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: RSA Security SEC FILINGS ALERT A Form SC13G/A regarding RSA Security has been filed with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission. Click on the following hyperlink to view this filing: http://ir.ccbn.com/ir.zhtml?t=rsas&s=1901 Please Note: The

RE: Say a goodnight prayer for joshua.

2002-02-13 Thread proffr11
>>There are MILLIONS of people that stand between that boy and evil of any sort, and support his Daddy.<< Well if they're as scatterbrained as you I'm concerned.What if his Daddy is evil? He seems to me to be. >>He might read this someday, and he'll probably come to the conclusion that his

Re: Research shows just how much people hate a winner...

2002-02-13 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Sunder wrote: > And does reasearch show how much people hate offtopic posts by Jim Choate > also? Off topic? No, it just shows more evidence of why 'anarchy utopias' won't work. --

Re: Research shows just how much people hate a winner...

2002-02-13 Thread Sunder
And does reasearch show how much people hate offtopic posts by Jim Choate also? --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\

stalking requires intent to create fear

2002-02-13 Thread proffr11
>>[re Kirkland, Jim Bell, etc.] << Kirklands about FOI isnt it? Publics right to basic knowledge of public servants? Bell,was tracked with GPS,shouldn't he have been given an intervention order? Was that entrapment? ""How can we translate the freedom afforded by the Internet to ordinary lif

Poindexter redux

2002-02-13 Thread proffr11
Reflux seeing this.APster now! 1 proffr dollar on the Poin. Search for Inslaw and the use of PROMIS in Guatamala,the old South Africa,Israel,etc Its sickening. Imagine for a moment that as ordinary citizens were watching the evening news, they see an act by a government employee or officeholder

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DC to get more terror,--"no choice but to accept it"

2002-02-13 Thread proffr11
Al-Quida had two go's at the WTC,does anyone here think they wont be back to finish what they started in DC? The latest from the scorpions caravan has them planning on recruiting some westerners to access RR and running a repeat performance of 9-11 on the Pentagon,Capitol building and /or W/hou

ATTN: Sister Tornado

2002-02-13 Thread Major Variola (ret)
In your Black SOAP RFC draft [cpunks 11 Feb 02] you propose using USENET as a broadcast medium for encrypted messages injected via an anonymous remailer chain. The broadcast provides resistance to traffic-analysis for the receiver; remailers provide anonymity for the source; encryption provides c

Re: Research shows just how much people hate a winner...

2002-02-13 Thread Sunder
Oh Tell me oh wise one, what exactly is on topic here? --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ <--*-->:camera won't

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2002-02-13 Thread Jim Choate
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Re: DC to get spycams --"no choice but to accept it"

2002-02-13 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, February 13, 2002, at 08:59 AM, Adam Shostack wrote: > Jeffery Rosen had an excellent bit in the NYTimes > http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/07/magazine/07SURVEILLANCE.html?pagewanted= > print > on 'that model.' > > "Last year, Britain's violent crime rates actually increased by 4.3 >

"Stole their back"?

2002-02-13 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, February 13, 2002, at 09:10 AM, Jim Dixon wrote: > In fact the only complaint I recall hearing recently about cameras was > from someone upset that the police couldn't track down the person who > stole their back, which had been locked outside a police station, right > in front of

Bush Adviser Warns Cyberterrorists (washingtonpost.com)

2002-02-13 Thread Jim Choate
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Re: "Stole their back"?

2002-02-13 Thread Eric Cordian
> "Stole their back"? I'll guess "hack", aka cab here. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"

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FBI Web Cache Mirror

2002-02-13 Thread John Young
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TLA Indexing and Mirroring

2002-02-13 Thread John Young
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2002-02-13 Thread Jim Choate
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Bush Adviser Warns Cyberterrorists (washingtonpost.com) Is Choate a moonie?

2002-02-13 Thread proffr11
>>From the Moonie's article..."if I was a betting man, I'd bet that many of our key infrastructure systems already have been penetrated." CEASEHACK! The enemy has somehow ascertained knowledge of our presence at the heart of the Wermacht! The enemy plans to spread out the net and reduce critical

Choate,the CIA's cypherpunk.

2002-02-13 Thread proffr11
http://www.pir.org/cgi-bin/nbonlin6.cgi?_ARMITAGE_RICHARD_L Poindexter's there on the left,As is Choate,hiding behind Ross Perot. "We declared jihad against the US government, because the US government is unjust, criminal and tyrannical. It has committed acts that are extremely unjust, hideous

Anarchist's that vote.

2002-02-13 Thread proffr11
Vote No in government's anti-choice referendum As we face into campaigning against yet another abortion referendum we are taking this opportunity to detail why we this is such an important issue for us. Anarchism is all about the freedom to choose to make decisions that directly effect us. For wom

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2002-02-13 Thread proffr11
If your into verbiage. http://www.ainfos.ca/A-Infos/ainfos08626.html "Anarchists are opposed to violence...The main plank of anarchism is the removal of violence from human relations. It is life based on the freedom of the individual, without the intervention of the police. For this reason we

Re: CDR: Anarchist Q+A,Direct Democracy.

2002-02-13 Thread proffr11
>>What 'direct democracy' does is: - Does not recognize the concept of 'rights', let alone individual rights. -<< Doesn't recognize parchment worship.You can vote though. >>Does not allow that people have other things to do with their lives than spend it in endless vote after endless vote,

Re: Anarchist Q+A,Direct Democracy.

2002-02-13 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 14 Feb 2002, proffr11 wrote: > Choate's poverty stricken version of "democracy' is now shown in harsh > relief.What a fraud you are jim. How so? Representative democracy mediated by a constitution is the most efficient form of democracy (which is the most efficient form of government).

Re: Research shows just how much people hate a winner...,

2002-02-13 Thread proffr11
>>Not at all. The anarchist promise that 'if only...' we'll get rid of central government and go to a ad hoc contract society all our problems will be minimized and our solutions will be maximized.<< I'm with you so far. >>That game theory and economic theory are the apogee of human societa

Re: Anarchist Q+A,Direct Democracy.

2002-02-13 Thread proffr11
>>Representative democracy mediated by a constitution is the most efficient form of democracy (which is the most efficient form of government)<< Direct democracy by definition is more efficient than representative.So Direct democracy is the most efficient.A constitution is unnecessary.Mediati