Hey! More BS.

2001-12-18 Thread mattd
>>Hey, Protestantism gave us the "priesthood of all believers", and if that's too much work, the ULC will ordain you for $20. The Internet lets everybody be a journalist, or at least a political commentator. Won't be a problem getting either of those jobs :-) (However, as many people have discov

Shockwave Rider

2001-12-18 Thread mattd
My tovarich Vulture tells me the 23 kiloton skidoo is in position.The camouflage extends to in-situ radiation! The only thing to catch this polar scud will be runaway global warming.Get out of Dodge! she's also angling for the OBL reward and is flying to Egypt to pace out one of the new finds i

Re: Cypherpunk Ban

2001-12-18 Thread Petro
On Monday, December 17, 2001, at 10:30 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote: > jya>>I don't recall the rationale used by the USPO to forbid CJ from > posting to cypherpunks. Anybody know the answer to that? > Since when is it unusual to forbid parolees from associating with > unsavory and immoral characters?

Re: Uzbekistan Eyewitnesses See Dozens of US Casualties

2001-12-18 Thread Petro
On Monday, December 17, 2001, at 09:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James A. Donald: >>> The dogs bark but the caravan moves on. In the US, unlike >>> most other countries, there is still sufficient freedom >>> of speech that soldiers cannot go missing without it >>> becoming widely known. The US

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Re: MY APPOLOGIES TO ALL CYPHERPUNKS - WAS Re: Returned mail:

2001-12-18 Thread Eric Murray
On Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 09:04:46AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > All nite long i've been spammed by the account [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm > sure we've all seen the numerous messages on here. > > Anyway - my autoresponder has been responding to these messages and as a > result a number of bounced

Re: MY APPOLOGIES TO ALL CYPHERPUNKS - WAS Re: Returned mail:

2001-12-18 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Eric Murray wrote: > the cause. Otherwise, there's some other problem. > (if you didn't see it because you're subscribed to a filtering CDR > that filtered them, it was about 400 copies of spam). wow busy little beaver. i think isaw about 100 of those before i filtered the

Re: CNN.com on Remailers

2001-12-18 Thread David Honig
At 06:56 PM 12/17/01 -0600, Jim Choate wrote: >On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Trei, Peter wrote: > >> Yes, I have read the letter - they need to treat input from known remailers >> differently due to worries over spam and flooding attacks, so they treat >> other known remailers as priviliged sources of hig

Re: Reg - Linotype copyright action on Adobe-format fonts

2001-12-18 Thread Declan McCullagh
Why wouldn't an original typeface be covered under U.S. copyright laws? -Declan At 10:12 AM 12/18/2001 -0800, David Honig wrote: >IIRC fonts are not copyrightable in the US, but are elsewhere, yes? > >Assuming that's correct, then an algorithmic font (eg Postscript) could be >turned into an albe

Re: Reg - Linotype copyright action on Adobe-format fonts

2001-12-18 Thread David Honig
At 07:35 PM 12/17/01 -0800, Bill Stewart wrote: >"ATM" is "Adobe Type Manager". Linotype is a big font house. >Intellectual Property laws for fonts are normally even stranger than for >regular material, >but if any of these are in Postscript, they're also programs, >so there may be DMCA issues,

Oregon Link to 9-11?

2001-12-18 Thread John Young
Fox News reports that a senator from Oregon says there is a link of the state to 9-11. No other details provided by the senator. Anybody know more about this or have a link? Wonder if this has anything to do with ISTAC.gov the CIA station allegedly in Bend, OR. ISTAC has been visiting Cryptome ov

Re: Reg - Linotype copyright action on Adobe-format fonts

2001-12-18 Thread Duncan Frissell
I thought everyone knew. Fonts aren't copyrightable. Font *names* are. The reverse of the norm. With a story or novel the body of text is copyrightable, the title isn't. DCF On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: > Why wouldn't an original typeface be covered under U.S. copyright laws?

Re: Reg - Linotype copyright action on Adobe-format fonts

2001-12-18 Thread Declan McCullagh
Bitmapped fonts may not be copyrightable in the U.S., but Postscript/vector fonts certainly are: http://news.cnet.com/news/0,1,0-1005-200-326302,00.html >In a case that pitted Adobe Systems >against a small software company in Florida, U.S. District Judge Ronald >Whyte of San Jose, Californi

CIA in NYC

2001-12-18 Thread John Young
The report a while back in the NY Times on the secret CIA station located in 7 World Trade Center, claimed its primary role was to surveil UN members and staff. And its cover was the Secret Service office in the building (which also housed NYC's Emergency Operations). Couple of things on that. Th

Chuck Schumer wants to invade privacy of gun buyers, open NICS database

2001-12-18 Thread Declan McCullagh
- Forwarded message from Declan McCullagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Declan McCullagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: FC: Chuck Schumer wants to invade privacy of gun buyers, open NICS database To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 12:22:53 -0500 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora V

RE: CIA in NYC

2001-12-18 Thread Trei, Peter
> Young[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > The report a while back in the NY Times on the secret > CIA station located in 7 World Trade Center, claimed > its primary role was to surveil UN members and staff. > And its cover was the Secret Service office in the > building (which also housed NYC's Emer

Re: CIA in NYC

2001-12-18 Thread Peter Wayner
>Moreover, it is unlikely that the purpose of the CIA station >was only that made public to the Times. More likely is >that the public story is a cover for what the station did. I went to a meeting in the WTC this spring. It took a half hour to get through security because they had to type all k

Re: CIA in NYC

2001-12-18 Thread David Honig
At 02:06 PM 12/18/01 -0800, John Young wrote: >Couple of things on that. The building, which was only >a few years old, is reported to have collapsed due to >high heat of oil storage tanks, a small tank on the upper >floor to serve NYC Emergency Operations, and an >unsually large tank in the basem

Re: Reg - Linotype copyright action on Adobe-format fonts

2001-12-18 Thread georgemw
On 18 Dec 2001, at 13:52, Declan McCullagh wrote: > Bitmapped fonts may not be copyrightable in the U.S., but Postscript/vector > fonts certainly are: > > http://news.cnet.com/news/0,1,0-1005-200-326302,00.html > >In a case that pitted Adobe Systems > >against a small software company in Fl

Re: Oregon Link to 9-11?

2001-12-18 Thread John Young
Answering myself on the Bend Or matter: Somebody reports that Bend is the location of an imagery downlink facility for the spooks, the point from which fiber optic cable is linked to Russia and the Far East, and where NSA and NRO operate facilities. And provided a possible source of more informat

Re: CIA in NYC

2001-12-18 Thread John Young
Answering myself on what the CIA was and is up to in NYC: Somebody in the counter-surveillance world says keep at it, you're on the right track. Look, we fools got nothing to offer except an open spittoon. Spit here.

Re: CNN.com on Remailers

2001-12-18 Thread Faustine
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 From: "Faustine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Marcel wrote: >Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if some of them did have nightmares about the > Constitution. Not as a piece of paper dancing around on Mickey Mouse legs or > whatever the hell you're getting at,

RE: CIA in NYC

2001-12-18 Thread Gil Hamilton
Peter Trei writes: > > Young[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Now whether bin Laden, or whoever planned the attack, > > knew of this, or suspected it, could enrich the speculation > > about why the towers were targeted. >Remember to apply Occam's razor occasionally. The WTC >towers were one of the be

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Re: Oregon Link to 9-11?

2001-12-18 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 01:39:00PM -0800, John Young wrote: > Scott Mueller, according to his sworn testimony, has > nothing to do with his namesake cut-out. Wasn't that the real estate agent who actually -- gasp! -- was a licensed real estate agent? http://www.inet-one.com/cypherpunks/dir.2001

Encrypted Distributed Filesystem With Linux?

2001-12-18 Thread Jei
With over > 2GB in size and on 2.4 Linux kernels? Say, an 80gb filesystem image that is encrypted with XXX over a loop device YYY to a filesystem image that resides on ZZZ. Is there any way to do this or something similar to it? I browsed the net but PPDD + CODA doesn't quite seem to get me the

Re: CNN.com on Remailers

2001-12-18 Thread Meyer Wolfsheim
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, David Honig wrote: > Can't spam be repelled by not forwarding email not encrypted to > the remailer's key? Who is to say that spammers won't use remailer clients that automatically encrypt to the remailers' keys? Using remailer clients should be *easy*. Saying "this is too

George Mason's groaning in his grave

2001-12-18 Thread mattd
http://www.smithsonianmag.si.edu/smithsonian/issues00/may00/mason.html in September 1787 as the delegates to the Constitutional Convention gathered at the State House (now Independence Hall) in Philadelphia to sign the new Constitution. Only three present refused to add their names. One of the

RE: CIA in NYC

2001-12-18 Thread mattd
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2001-12-18 Thread goentarzan
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RE: CIA in NYC

2001-12-18 Thread Anonymous
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Trei, Peter wrote: > I used to work at 101 Barclay Street, across the street from > WTC #7. I watched it going up from my office window. I hated > the building - it blocked my view south. Hate is a strong word. Be careful, Peter; John will think you had something to do with

Wackenhutt west of Cabazon and the new "Aussi KGB"

2001-12-18 Thread mattd
New powers 'create Aussie KGB' From AAP 19dec01 GIVING spy agency ASIO wide-ranging powers to fight terrorism would turn it into Australia's own KGB, civil libertarians have argued. Draft laws endorsed by cabinet yesterday include giving ASIO officers the power to detain people for 48 hours wit

spam and Remailers

2001-12-18 Thread georgemw
On 18 Dec 2001, at 14:42, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote: > On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, David Honig wrote: > > > Can't spam be repelled by not forwarding email not encrypted to > > the remailer's key? > > Who is to say that spammers won't use remailer clients that automatically > encrypt to the remailers' keys

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2001-12-18 Thread mattd
http://theage.com.au/entertainment/2001/12/19/FFXKJ94KCVC.html Tom Cruise says Hollywood will stop internet thieves Wednesday 19 December 2001 People who download movies off the internet are "thieves" who threaten the potential of the film industry, Tom Cruise said yesterday. People who support

Re: Reg - Linotype copyright action on Adobe-format fonts

2001-12-18 Thread David Honig
At 12:04 PM 12/18/01 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Interesting article. However, it appears that it's not the fonts themselves >that are copyrightable, but rather the "code" >that draws them. From the same article: This is what I remembered (from this list BTW) and why I suggested that th

Re: CNN.com on Remailers

2001-12-18 Thread David Honig
At 02:42 PM 12/18/01 -0800, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote: >On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, David Honig wrote: > >> Can't spam be repelled by not forwarding email not encrypted to >> the remailer's key? > >Who is to say that spammers won't use remailer clients that automatically >encrypt to the remailers' keys? Yes

Wired on e-gold

2001-12-18 Thread Nomen Nescio
The January, 2002 issue of Wired has an article on e-gold, the online payment system founded by retired oncologist Douglas Jackson. Much of the article discusses e-gold's misguided effort to link up with Islamic fundamentalists who want to overthrow capitalism. They are setting up a spinoff, e-di

Re: Speech May Not Be Free, but It's Refundable

2001-12-18 Thread Sunder
On Sun, 9 Dec 2001, Jim Choate wrote: > On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Sunder wrote: > > > Ok, then I propose to surround your property from any vantage point on > > public land, and setup gigantic speakers from which I would recite very > > loud speeches in your direction at 3:00am. > > No public land i

Re: MS DRM OS

2001-12-18 Thread Graham Lally
Ralph Wallis wrote: > On Monday, 17 Dec 2001 at 07:58, Michael Motyka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Could someone who knows more than I do explain to me why this MS "IP" is >>anything other than making the owner of a PC unable to have root access >>to their own hardware/OS? If so it seems to be

Re: AP Al quim

2001-12-18 Thread Sunder
So from your reply, I'll assume the answer to my "So are you finally evolving?" question is still No. I, and everyone in the world, is aware that commerce != capitalism, and that you are avoiding the question. As there are no CACL promoters (except in Choate') it is not possible for them to sup

Everyone a remailer:Everyone a mint:Everyone an assassin predictor

2001-12-18 Thread mattd
http://www.spammimic.com/ is a commercial example of a good use to put spam.Like steggin' pron.the hide in the herd idea.Its a shame larry ellison chose the dark side.Oracle sized remailers could be useful to speed the crypto-revolution. He used to make sense on the 'network as computer',then h

Re: Wired on e-gold

2001-12-18 Thread georgemw
On 19 Dec 2001, at 1:30, Nomen Nescio wrote: > Of course the cypherpunk interest in e-gold revolves around its vaunted > privacy protection. The article provides a much-needed dose of reality to > those who still harbor fantasies that e-gold is interested in protecting > the privacy of its cust

Wired on e-gold

2001-12-18 Thread Faustine
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nomen Nescio wrote: (snip) >With most people, if they have nothing to hide, they don't hide it. Why are you posting this from behind a remailer? >Only paranoids and extremists will adopt anonymity >technologies without nefarious purposes in mind.

Re: MS DRM OS

2001-12-18 Thread georgemw
On 19 Dec 2001, at 0:38, Graham Lally wrote: > Ralph Wallis wrote: > If the patent hasn't been picked up by the courts yet, then why not? > *If* the SSSCA were to come into effect (and I have heard little about > it for several months now... biding its time?), I suspect that someone has point

Re: Wired on e-gold

2001-12-18 Thread Steve Schear
At 01:30 AM 12/19/2001 +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote: > > >Criminals love privacy, they love anonymity. Remailer operators soon find >that a substantial majority of the messages they send contain nothing >but harrassment and threats. Few customers use anonymity services >for positive purposes, to p

MS DRM OS Begets SSSCA

2001-12-18 Thread John Young
SSSCA is far from dead, it may have a good chance of enactment according to Mike Godwin's essay today, "Coming Soon: Hollywood Versus the Internet:" http://cryptome.org/mpaa-v-net-mg.htm Here are his opening paragraphs: "If you have a fast computer and a fast connection to the Internet, you

Test

2001-12-18 Thread Jim Choate
1, 2, 3 -- Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate Austin,

RE: Wired on e-gold,

2001-12-18 Thread mattd
Ive seen a good story somewhere on the e-dinar,if it was protected with world wide AP/PGP served by huge remailing networks it could be the one.Nomen RUN! The end is nigh. The other story this year (its not 2002 yet numbnuts) to raise a smile was the keystone Kops raid by the SS.Easy to see wha

Re: Libertarian Party considered harmful

2001-12-18 Thread Matthew Gaylor
At 8:04 PM -0800 12/18/01, Tim May wrote: >(If it matters to anyone, I voted for John Hospers in 1972 and I >debated the Nolan Chart wth that very guy. Lots of libertoonians >here in California. I met David Friedman in 1974. I tend to call >myself a libertarian, when I'm not calling myself an

Matthew Gaylor has it ass backward

2001-12-18 Thread mattd
http://ri.xu.org/arbalest/alembic2c.html "The Libertarian as Conservative." To me this is so obvious that I am hard put to find something to say to people who still think libertarianism has something to do with liberty. A libertarian is just a Republican who takes drugs. I'd have preferred a m

Re: Speech May Not Be Free, but It's Refundable

2001-12-18 Thread mattd
Extract...>>attempted suicide punishable by death. There are other examples of similar, but not as ludicrous, legal situations where the only person being impacted is the person acting, but it's still illegal. Joe If the point is to minimize coercion and maximize freedom to play loud music an

Questions for the list.RE.Quantum Encryption.

2001-12-18 Thread mattd
From D.McCullogh. As I understand it, Weyl's original gauge theory allowed for the possibility that length scale can change from point to point. Has there been any modern work on Weyl's theory? In particular, is it possible to develop a quantum version? Another question: is it possible that som

Apologist for the Police State: Goldberg On Ashcroft

2001-12-18 Thread Matthew Gaylor
[Note from Matthew Gaylor: US Attorney General John Ashcroft said "to those who scare peace-loving people with phantoms of lost liberty; my message is this: Your tactics only aid terrorists - for they erode our national unity and diminish our resolve. They give ammunition to America's enemies

Re: MS DRM OS Begets SSSCA

2001-12-18 Thread mattd
jya>>I think Mike is trying to describe the worst case scenario to arouse opposition. Bear in mind that the Content Faction (and maybe the Tech Faction) want to control the world, not just the US. All countries are targets for SSSCA and DMCA through copyright treaties and other control regimes