Re: [e-gold-list] HavenCo? -- fell over.,

2001-11-27 Thread mattd
Havenco,cypherpunks and indymedia all go offline together again DEW for US Fascist troop movements? "I THOUGHT IT WAS THE U.K. OR JUST ANOTHER COUNTRY ANOTHER COUNCIL TENANCY I WANNA BE ANARCHY I WANNA BE ANARCHY OH WHAT A NAME AND I WANNA BE AN ANARCHIST GET PISSED,DESTROY!"sex pistols

Re: Antivirus software will ignore FBI spyware: solutions

2001-11-27 Thread Tim May
On Monday, November 26, 2001, at 11:00 PM, Jonathan Wienke wrote: ...my entire post snipped ...his comments at bottom snipped... Jonathan, could you please not include the entire post and then "bottom post" (add comments at bottom)? Bandwidth may be getting cheaper, but it remains the be

Re: Cat Herding... (was Re: in praise of gold)

2001-11-27 Thread Bill Stewart
>Cows might have served well as currency for primitives like the >Etruscans, but can you imagine using them today? I took >a bus this morning, the fair was 1.10 and I only had paper money >so they ripped me off 90 cents. But if I was an Etruscan, they >would've taken my whole cow! More likely t

Re: Anonymizing Scam

2001-11-27 Thread John Young
There are a variety of ways to anonymize surfing and email besides anonymizer services and remailers. Government agencies likely use all these. Reasons for the agencies to use anonymizers and remailers is to learn how they work and to influence operators by purchases, complaints and praise, an

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The Register - US assumes global cyber-police authority

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Linux Today - Linux Journal: US Court says buyers can unbundle EULA-covered software.

2001-11-27 Thread Jim Choate
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phorum - General Linux - Government Criminalizes Programmers

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Re: Cattle Herding... (was Re: in praise of gold)

2001-11-27 Thread Ken Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Cows might have served well as currency for primitives like the > Etruscans, but can you imagine using them today? I took > a bus this morning, the fair was 1.10 and I only had paper money > so they ripped me off 90 cents. But if I was an Etruscan, they > would've take

Waxing celebrities

2001-11-27 Thread mattd
What do tom cruise,jenna elfman,john travolta and kirsty alley need that only we can supply? Talk about a 'sweet spot' for well armed paparazzi.They also fly a lot."Id buy that for a dollar" "Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months."

Re: Moving beyond "Reputation"--the Market View of Reality

2001-11-27 Thread David Honig
At 09:42 PM 11/26/01 -0600, Jim Choate wrote: > >Reputation itself is a problem. Past behaviour (toward another) is not a >reasonable predictor of future behavior (toward myself). Yes but your past behavior towards this list *is* empirically a reasonable predictor of the value of your present and

Re: Cattle Herding... (was Re: in praise of gold)

2001-11-27 Thread David Honig
At 05:21 PM 11/26/01 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Cows might have served well as currency for primitives like the >Etruscans, but can you imagine using them today? I took >a bus this morning, the fair was 1.10 and I only had paper money >so they ripped me off 90 cents. But if I was an Etr

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Re: Denning's Geo-crypto

2001-11-27 Thread Declan McCullagh
Some details from a 1996 paper: http://www.cs.georgetown.edu/~denning/infosec/Grounding.txt -Declan On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 11:35:51AM -0500, Trei, Peter wrote: > Curious. 4-5 years ago Denning and another associate (I > forget who, it's in the archives :-) tried to market an authentication > s

Michigan Asks Arabs to Come for Questioning

2001-11-27 Thread Khoder bin Hakkin
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20011127/ts/attack_usa_interviews_dc.html Report: Michigan Asks Arabs to Come for Questioning NEW YORK (Reuters) - Law enforcement officials in Detroit, seeking to interview hundreds of Middle Eastern men about the Sept. 11 attacks on the

Re: Anonymizing Scam

2001-11-27 Thread Lance M. Cottrell
Yes indeed. I actually saw several similar statements from other people. The one from John Young seemed to have the widest distribution, so it was the one I replied to. -Lance At 12:17 AM -0500 11/27/01, Declan McCullagh wrote: >Perhaps Lance meant: "It seems a hypocritical position fo

[gnu@toad.com: cypherpunks@toad.com is going away]

2001-11-27 Thread Eric Murray
It's the end of an era. - Forwarded message from John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Authentication-Warning: toad.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [EMAIL PROT

Re: Anonymizing Scam

2001-11-27 Thread Nomen Nescio
John Young writes: > Criticism of anonymizers and remailers and this list is a healthy > as criticizing any reputable, and disreputable, private or publice > means of communication. > > Fending off criticism by saying past performance and reputation > deserves trust is a hoot and is also a hackney

Re: Waxing celebrities

2001-11-27 Thread Bill Scannell
The fact that all four whore for the Kriminal Kult of Scientology has of course nothing to do with anything... Begin Fair Use quote of mattd aka [EMAIL PROTECTED] written on 27.11.01 09:15 : > What do tom cruise,jenna elfman,john travolta and kirsty alley need that > only we can supply? > > T

FC: Has McAfee sided with FBI on "Magic Lantern" detection?

2001-11-27 Thread mattd
With virus scan as product they dont need any stinking FIB virus.Im browsing the archives before the big blackout and found a prediction for 'PUFF' ...). I bet the NSA is doing active research on sniffer viruses and other automated tools for large scale active attacks. Wei Dai jan 96 Suggest ch

FC: Dorothy Denning on "geo-encryption":

2001-11-27 Thread mattd
Ive gone on record at indymedia when the tampa facescan story broke that I suspect the whole star wars thing is about placing lasers next to the hi-res optics (a la 'patriot games',remember the shot looking down on cleavage from outer space?) The laser will be able to fry individual citizen-un

Waxing celebrities

2001-11-27 Thread mattd
Your a quick study bill,only I dont see your operation soft drill dollar.ANTE UP. "...the networkeffect, a conceptual corollary to Metcalfe's Law (Bob Metcalfe invented Ethernet) - the value of a network grows in proportion to the square of its number of users. This implies that if we double t

Bombastic conservative demands that DOJ censor usqueers.com

2001-11-27 Thread Declan McCullagh
I suppose if some of the more vocal cypherpunks subscribers were to forward their messages to Mr. John B. Thompson, he might be persuaded to denounce this list in a letter to Ashcroft too. - Forwarded message from Declan McCullagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Declan McCullagh <[EMAIL PROT

Drivers License as ID Card

2001-11-27 Thread Duncan Frissell
Americans and their Drivers Licenses. There's something funny about them. ** http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A32717-2001Nov2?language=printer "States Devising Plan for High-Tech National Identification Cards By Robert O'Harrow Jr. Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, Nov

Re: CDR: Re: Antivirus software will ignore FBI spyware: solutions

2001-11-27 Thread Sunder
On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Tim May wrote: > On Monday, November 26, 2001, at 11:49 AM, Sunder wrote: > > > a. It may use your OS to hide the key capture log, so you > >won't be able to just watch files. Think of a kernel patch > >that removes all references to a specific file, no

Re: Anonymizing Scam

2001-11-27 Thread Faustine
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nomen wrote: >Rather than make accusations about other people, why not eliminate the >middleman and make accusations about yourself? End your hypocrisy. Say, >"I may be sucking up to law enforcement agencies. I may be recording >people's browsing

Re: CDR: Re: The Crypto Winter

2001-11-27 Thread Sunder
You're confused. The ability of individuals acting in their own interests does not deny the ability of a collection of those same individuals from working towards mutual benefits. Nor does it deny others who are not acting in those same interest from benefiting from their work. What objectivi

Re: CDR: Moving beyond "Reputation"--the Market View of Reality

2001-11-27 Thread Sunder
On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Jim Choate wrote: > > On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Tim May wrote: > > > For many years some of us have argued strongly for "reputation" as a > > core concept. Someone, perhaps even one of our own, even coined the > > phrase "reputation capital." > > And for as many years many o

Re: The Crypto Winter

2001-11-27 Thread Thomas Lyon Gideon
On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 02:01:12PM -0500, Sunder wrote: > > While I'm not comparing humans to ants, nor to slime mold cells -- don't > even attempt to make that connection, the lesson here for you to learn is > that individual action performed in the self interest of the individual, > when integr

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Re: CDR: Drivers License as ID Card

2001-11-27 Thread Jim Choate
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Duncan Frissell wrote: > Americans and their Drivers Licenses. There's something funny about > them. > > ** > http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A32717-2001Nov2?language=printer > > "States Devising Plan for High-Tech National Identification Cards > > B

Re: The Crypto Winter

2001-11-27 Thread Thomas Lyon Gideon
On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 02:01:12PM -0500, Sunder wrote: > > While I'm not comparing humans to ants, nor to slime mold cells -- don't > even attempt to make that connection, the lesson here for you to learn is > that individual action performed in the self interest of the individual, > when integr

Re: The Crypto Winter

2001-11-27 Thread Jim Choate
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Thomas Lyon Gideon wrote: > The point about emergent behavior is excellently made. A corollary that > occurs to me is that one of the prime motivators in the emergent quality of > human society may well be the pursuit of non-zero sum games. Of course people want to take ad

RE: SURRENDER DOROTHY!

2001-11-27 Thread Sandy Sandfort
Jimbo really stretched on this one: > As my original statement (which I thank > you for providing) specifically says > 'between themselves'. But states DO make compacts 'BETWEEN THEMSELVES,' which is what Jimbo said was unconstitutional. The fact that they have congressional approval, does not

RE: SURRENDER DOROTHY!

2001-11-27 Thread Jim Choate
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote: > But states DO make compacts 'BETWEEN THEMSELVES,' which is what Jimbo said > was unconstitutional. The fact that they have congressional approval, does > not alter the nature of the agreement nor of the parties. Not without congressional approval. N

Tomorrow on ABC News

2001-11-27 Thread Declan McCullagh
From John Stossel, pretty funny: >This week's "Give Me A Break!" is about Montgomery County's new ban on >smoking in your own home if it bothers a neighbor. It's not surprising that >Montgomery County is the first to do this; it is right next to Washington >D.C., where politicians are famous fo

Re: CDR: Drivers License as ID Card

2001-11-27 Thread Michael Gurski
On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 04:13:23PM -0600, Jim Choate wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Duncan Frissell wrote: > > > Americans and their Drivers Licenses. There's something funny about > > them. > > > > ** > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A32717-2001Nov2?language=printer >

Re: Drivers License as ID Card

2001-11-27 Thread Jim Choate
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Michael Gurski wrote: > I guess it wouldn't be unconstitutional if Congress approves it... Or > does this not count as an "Agreement or Compact with another State"? > Somehow it reads that way to me. The problem, there is no real support. If Congress was so motivated they

The times, they are a changin'...and so is SSZ...Open Forge?

2001-11-27 Thread Jim Choate
Howdy, Just a heads up on some basic changes that will significantly effect each and every one of you. We are undergoing a fundamental change in direction and goals. We are going to start a Linux/Plan 9 based source forge which includes hardware as well as software. The tools will be Open Source

The FATHERLAND...

2001-11-27 Thread sonofgomez709
If the PowersThatBe would just substitute the word FATHERLAND for the word HOMELAND, then THEY [TM] would be able to recycle all of the Third Reich speeches and propaganda material in the march toward the Ameri%an establishment of the Fourth Reich. All that would have to be done is to substi

Slashdot | Cable Co's Want More Control Over Your Network

2001-11-27 Thread Jim Choate
http://slashdot.org/articles/01/11/27/2036244.shtml -- -- Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::

The Register - AV vendors split over FBI Trojan snoops

2001-11-27 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/23057.html -- -- Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::/

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2001-11-27 Thread William Hitzke
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Symantec pulls an NAI

2001-11-27 Thread measl
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/23057.html "Eric Chien, chief researcher at Symantec's antivirus research lab, said that provided a hypothetical keystroke logging tool was used only by the FBI, then Symantec would avoid updating its antivirus tools to detect such a Trojan. Th

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Tempest for Eliza

2001-11-27 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.erikyyy.de/tempest/ -- -- Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind. Bumper Sticker The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. Ja

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MAY I SHARE THIS WITH YOU?

2001-11-27 Thread Marie
Subject: MAY I SHARE THIS WITH YOU? Your name was given to me as someone who has been successful in other gifting and/or network marketing programs. I do not wish to send anything out unwanted. So, please if you do not wish to hear from me, reply with REMOVE and I will gladly take you off my

MAY I SHARE THIS WITH YOU?

2001-11-27 Thread Marie
Subject: MAY I SHARE THIS WITH YOU? Your name was given to me as someone who has been successful in other gifting and/or network marketing programs. I do not wish to send anything out unwanted. So, please if you do not wish to hear from me, reply with REMOVE and I will gladly take you off my

Re: Tempest for Eliza

2001-11-27 Thread Eric Cordian
Choate Links: > http://www.erikyyy.de/tempest/ An amusing link, which tells how to display stuff on your monitor, which can be received as music on a shortwave radio at numerous channel locations, using the radiated EM. Reminds me of my salad days when we used to set a Transistor Radio on top o

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