Re: CDR: Re: First Polygraphs and Then Torture?

2001-11-05 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc
An even more basic point is "punishment" - for what? These people are SUSPECTS, against whom no criminal act has yet been proven in open court. They are not yet eligible for punishment in any form. Marc de Piolenc Meyer Wolfsheim wrote: > > On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Jim Choate wrote: > > > You ignor

Re: First Polygraphs and Then Torture?

2001-11-05 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 05:05:03PM -0800, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote: > Who decides what is "cruel and unusual"? Well, hell, who decides what "speech" is, or "religion," or a firearm? (Is Politech speech, is Scientology a religion, is a stun gun a firearm?) The answer, of course, is that the courts d

Re: Where The Torture Never Stops...

2001-11-05 Thread Steve Thompson
Quoting An Metet ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Steve squeaks: > > > > Besides, "Prison is not punishment to the literate." > > > > What could be more obvious? > > Isn't it obvious by now that this is just some trolling > faggot LEO? Should I be flattered or offended? >Just like the other on

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2001-11-05 Thread Anonymous
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Re: American Schools Need Flattening Too

2001-11-05 Thread Bill Stewart
It's pretty clear that the school district is violating her civil rights to freedom of expression and freedom of association, and that the either judge and school board lawyer doesn't understand either anarchy or anarchism or the Constitution, or that if they do understand them they don't like the