End the FAA Killings

2001-09-25 Thread keyser-soze
The U.S. has declared war upon terrorists and those countries that support terrorists. That means that the U.S. has declared war upon itself. This year, the U.S. continued a Clinton-era policy and committed more than $100 million in foreign aid to Afghanistan — making us the country's largest

re: [texas-hpr] ATF letter (fwd)

2001-09-25 Thread citizenQ
BATF planted that post as a troll so then they could peek at the IP of anybody hitting that URL, knowing they came from [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Jim Choate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], The Club Inferno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [texas-hpr] ATF lette

Fwd: FW: there is no Keyser Soze

2001-09-25 Thread Bill Stewart
> >Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 02:13:47 -0700 > >Subject: there is no Keyser Soze > >From: Faisal Jawdat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2001320012-2001330486,00.html > > > > Article too long for me to meaningfully excerpt from.

British SAS in Afghanistan

2001-09-25 Thread Neil Johnson
A couple of British Newspapers are reporting that a British SAS unit exchanged fire with Taleban soldiers in Afghanistan. The Herlad Sun: http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,2919672%255E661,00 .html >From the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1559000/1559084.s

Re: Democracy is our enemy

2001-09-25 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 03:22:34AM -, Anonymous wrote: > There was an article the other day about the terrorists, which made the > point that capitalism and fundamentalism were much alike, in that both > share a distrust of democracy. The same can be said for the cypherpunks. Difference: Cyp

Re: Democracy is our enemy

2001-09-25 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 03:22:34AM -, Anonymous ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Thomas Leavitt writes: > There was an article the other day about the terrorists, which made > the point that capitalism and fundamentalism were much alike, in that > both share a distrust of democracy. I can think

Re: [texas-hpr] ATF letter (fwd)

2001-09-25 Thread Declan McCullagh
Not Found The requested URL was not found on this server. Please check the filename requested and/or the link that you followed. On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 10:27:45PM -0500, Jim Choate wrote: > -- Forwarded message -- > Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 01:20:32 - > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [silk] Re: Avoid hard targets tomorrow (fwd)

2001-09-25 Thread jamesd
-- On 22 Sep 2001, at 19:27, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote: > hey tim, > > maybe you remember me from the early days of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] just wanted to butt in here and reply > to your post which i saw forwarded to some other list... it > beats me why americans and the western media generally >

Re: RE: Expectation of privacy in public?

2001-09-25 Thread jamesd
-- On 24 Sep 2001, at 15:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It's not a violation of US law for US agents to spy on > people in Australia, but it's almost certainly a violation > of Australian law. Similarly, it's probably not a > violation of Australian law for Australian agents to > eavsdrop

Re: Democracy is our enemy

2001-09-25 Thread Steve Furlong
Anonymous wrote: > There was an article the other day about the terrorists, which made the > point that capitalism and fundamentalism were much alike, in that both > share a distrust of democracy. The same can be said for the cypherpunks. > No wonder that so many here have expressed vitriolic cr

Re: Democracy is our enemy

2001-09-25 Thread keyser-soze
At 03:22 AM 9/25/2001 +, Anonymous wrote: >>Thomas Leavitt writes: >> I'm tired of hearing my fellow Americans referred to as cowards, >> weaklings, sheep, ignorant, easily mislead - this is a profoundly >> undemocratic sentiment, the same kind of crap spewed by totalitarian >> and authorit

ACTION: Anti-Terrorism Act of 2001

2001-09-25 Thread Matthew Gaylor
URGENT ACTION ALERT The Administration's proposed Anti-Terrorism Act of 2001 is currently scheduled for mark-up by the House Judiciary Committee tomorrow (Tuesday) morning. It is critical that consideration of the legislation be delayed until th

Re: FC: Sen. Hollings plans to introduce DMCA sequel:

2001-09-25 Thread keyser-soze
At 04:58 PM 9/24/2001 -0700, Tim May wrote: On Monday, September 24, 2001, at 03:08 PM, Thomas Leavitt wrote: >>I'm tired of hearing my fellow Americans referred to as cowards, weaklings, sheep, >ignorant, easily mislead - this is a profoundly undemocratic sentiment, the same kind >of crap spewe

Re: ACTION: SUCCESS! Anti-Terrorism Act of 2001

2001-09-25 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 10:04:09AM -0700, Black Unicorn wrote: > The hearing for markup of the Anti Terrorism Act of 2001 has been cancelled by > direction of the Chairman and has not been rescheduled at this time. Try next week... -Declan

Re: ACTION: SUCCESS! Anti-Terrorism Act of 2001

2001-09-25 Thread Black Unicorn
Since the only goal in the first place was to delay I repeat: SUCCESS! - Original Message - From: "Declan McCullagh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Black Unicorn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 5:37 PM Subject: Re: ACTION: SUCCESS! Anti-Terrorism

Re: ACTION: SUCCESS! Anti-Terrorism Act of 2001

2001-09-25 Thread Declan McCullagh
At 08:47 PM 9/25/01 -0700, Alan wrote: >Until they wait until people look the other way and then sneak it past. >(Like every other privacy-rapeing bill over the last ten years.) They won't wait that long. Folks in Congress mostly seem to be making the right noises so they won't be accused of bei

No Regrets About Shamelessly Exploiting National Tragedy For My Own PerQ Gain.

2001-09-25 Thread Frog2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 C'punks, Phil Zimmermann did not ask me to post this. He would not like it freely disseminated, so feel free to post it wherever you wish. l a i n No Regrets About Shamelessly Exploiting National Tragedy For My Own Personal Gain. This Friday Sep

Re: ACTION: SUCCESS! Anti-Terrorism Act of 2001

2001-09-25 Thread Reese
At 10:04 AM 9/25/01 -0700, Black Unicorn wrote: >The hearing for markup of the Anti Terrorism Act of 2001 has been >cancelled by direction of the Chairman and has not been rescheduled >at this time. That's the best news I've heard since 9-11. Your source for this, if you don't mind? Reese

RE: ACTION: SUCCESS! Anti-Terrorism Act of 2001

2001-09-25 Thread Black Unicorn
> -Original Message- > From: Reese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:31 PM > To: Black Unicorn; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: ACTION: SUCCESS! Anti-Terrorism Act of 2001 > > > At 10:04 AM 9/25/01 -0700, Black Unicorn wrote: > >The hearing for markup

RE: Reflections on "High Concept, Low Tech," Martial Law, the new Paper Gauntlet and the changing meaning of 911.

2001-09-25 Thread Blanc
Intelligence vs stupidity, knowledge vs ignorance - some slightly random, paradoxically related ruminations: -- Someone I read made the observation that the risk and danger posed to civilization by scientific/technological advances increases proportional to their speed and the inability of humans