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Re: kuro5hin.org || Combating Terrorism Act of 2001 - Analyzed

2001-09-19 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: > Relying on kuro5hin for political and legislative analysis is like relying > on the broadcast networks for in-depth reporting. As usual, you miss the point. It's analysis the 'other way'... --

Re: crypto law survey questions

2001-09-19 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: > On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 05:40:27PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Is it true that Gregg is giving up? Has someone told him that his ATM, > > his browser and his garage door opener would be outlawed? > > Depends on whether you believe politicot

Re: crypto law survey questions

2001-09-19 Thread Duncan Frissell
-Original Message- I wonder what's going to be in the emergency anti-terrorism bill that Bush will send Congress on Wed or Thurs. Maybe not crypto restrictions, but the language will likely bear a close read. -Declan I wonder about enforcement as well. Crypto was outlawed in WWII but I

Bush's anti-terror bill appears not to include crypto restrictions

2001-09-19 Thread Declan McCullagh
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46953,00.html Bush Bill Rewrites Spy Laws By Declan McCullagh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 2:00 a.m. Sep. 19, 2001 PDT WASHINGTON -- The Bush administration will ask for more power to eavesdrop on phone calls, the Internet and voicemail messag

SIG: Slashdot | The Physics of Information Technology

2001-09-19 Thread Jim Choate
http://slashdot.org/books/01/09/18/1918234.shtml -- -- The future, as always, belongs to the dreamers. Heinz Pagels The Armadillo Group ,::;::-

Slashdot | Civil Liberties And The New Reality

2001-09-19 Thread Jim Choate
http://slashdot.org/features/01/09/18/1950255.shtml -- -- The future, as always, belongs to the dreamers. Heinz Pagels The Armadillo Group ,::;

MATT DRUDGE // DRUDGE REPORT 2000® - Pakistan closes newspaper for publishing head money on Americans

2001-09-19 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm -- -- The future, as always, belongs to the dreamers. Heinz Pagels The Armadillo Group ,::;::-.

FT.com | News and Analysis | World Article - China seeks US favours for supporting war

2001-09-19 Thread Jim Choate
http://news.ft.com/ft/gx.cgi/ftc?pagename=View&c=Article&cid=FT3FMQD2SRC&live=true&tagid=FTDO9DHMZJC -- -- The future, as always, belongs to the dreamers. Heinz

Who did it? Foreign Report presents an alternative view

2001-09-19 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.janes.com/security/international_security/news/fr/fr010919_1_n.shtml -- -- The future, as always, belongs to the dreamers. Heinz Pagels The Ar

Roving surveillance & misc.

2001-09-19 Thread Aimee Farr
"Citizen Q" posted a news clip, which included: > Part of Ashcroft's terrorism package includes a request to allow > the FBI to seek wiretapping orders for a suspect instead of a > telephone. > That would mean law enforcement agents would be able to tap any > phone a suspect uses, ins

EarthLink rejects FBI\'s request to install Carnivore

2001-09-19 Thread mean-green
EarthLink rejects FBI's request to install Carnivore ATLANTA -- Less than 24 hours after last week's terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, FBI agents visited executives in EarthLink's Atlanta headquarters. The agents, subpoenas in hand, wanted EarthLink personnel to install the FBI's

Re: crypto law survey questions

2001-09-19 Thread Nomen Nescio
Tim May writes: > Q: "Do you believe people should be arrrested, tried, and jailed for > writing in some form that narcs and cops cannot read? Do you believe > whispering should be made a felony? > > Q: If you answered "yes," would you be willing to take a bullet from > citizens who don't agree

Re: Soft Targets (Re: Saudis detained photographing dam)

2001-09-19 Thread Harmon Seaver
I'm surprised there hasn't been a big effort made to protect nuke plants. Seems like they'd be a ripe target for terrs, either by an airliner hit or just by a large armed group intrusion. -- Harmon Seaver, MLIS CyberShamanix Work 920-203-9633 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home 920-233-5820 [EMAIL PRO

Re: crypto law survey questions

2001-09-19 Thread mmotyka
Jim Choate wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 05:40:27PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Is it true that Gregg is giving up? Has someone told him that his ATM, > > > his browser and his garage door opener would be outlawed? > > > > Depends

Wartime Crypto Laws

2001-09-19 Thread Meyer Wolfsheim
Gentlemen, It was recently mentioned on this list that there were additional restrictions placed on the use of ciphers by private citizens during World War II. I'm curious if anyone knows of a good resource for further information on this topic. (Now, inevitably, Choate is going to sent me a Goo

from alt.security.terrorism

2001-09-19 Thread Anonymous
Hidden messages revealed: 1. Go into Microsoft Word. 2. Type in all caps and highlight: NYC 3. Make the font size 48 4. Change the font to Webdings and read what it says 5. Then change the font again, this time to Wingdings

Re: CDR: FBI states that terrorists did not use crypto

2001-09-19 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote: > Expect a crackdown on Internet anonymity, rather than a reversal of the > loosened crypto regulations. The death bell may be tolling for anonymous > Internet access in libraries and cyber-cafes, but so far I have yet to see > anything to make the cas

Afghanistan Gems

2001-09-19 Thread Subcommander Bob
The gem industry was helping the militant Afghans raise money back when they were US allies. In the bios below, helping the Mujahideen is listed as a cool thing, for both locals and US folks. http://www.gems-afghan.com/symposium/speakers.htm Anwar Pacha was born in Nuristan. He and his father

Re: Wartime Crypto Laws

2001-09-19 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, September 19, 2001, at 10:47 AM, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote: > Gentlemen, > > It was recently mentioned on this list that there were additional > restrictions placed on the use of ciphers by private citizens during > World > War II. I'm curious if anyone knows of a good resource for fur

OpinionJournal - Peggy Noonan - There Is No Time, There Will Be Time

2001-09-19 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=95001157 -- -- The future, as always, belongs to the dreamers. Heinz Pagels The Armadillo Group

Mandatory ID Cards

2001-09-19 Thread Eric Cordian
MSNBC is reporting that Congress is thinking of requiring all citizens and non-citizens in the United States to carry ID cards. It looks like the anti-privacy folks are going to do an end-run around the encryption issue, and first attack anonymity. An interesting strategy, and one which we shoul

Re: Mandatory ID Cards

2001-09-19 Thread Roy M. Silvernail
On 19 Sep 2001, at 13:08, Eric Cordian wrote: > MSNBC is reporting that Congress is thinking of requiring all citizens > and non-citizens in the United States to carry ID cards. Interesting article... http://www.msnbc.com/news/630118.asp for those interested. > It looks like the anti-privacy fo

Re: Mandatory ID Cards

2001-09-19 Thread Meyer Wolfsheim
> MSNBC is reporting that Congress is thinking of requiring all citizens > and non-citizens in the United States to carry ID cards. We're already half-way there. With our photo-id driver's licenses, and required identification before boarding airplanes, convenient travel and lack of anonymity go

Re: CNN poll

2001-09-19 Thread Steve Thompson
Quoting Trei, Peter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > While these online polls are rarely terribly meaningful, > I will note that CNN has one going now, at > http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/19/gen.america.under.attack/ > > It asks 'Would you accept more government involvement in your > life if it meant more

Re: Soft Targets (Re: Saudis detained photographing dam)

2001-09-19 Thread David Honig
At 11:16 AM 9/19/01 -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: > I'm surprised there hasn't been a big effort made to >protect nuke plants. Seems like they'd be a ripe target for >terrs, either by an airliner hit or just by a large armed >group intrusion. > San Onofre increased their ground security. Th

Freedom flees in terror from Sept. 11 disaster By Paul McMasters

2001-09-19 Thread Matthew Gaylor
Freedom flees in terror from Sept. 11 disaster Ombudsman By Paul McMasters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> First Amendment Ombudsman First Amendment Center 09.19.01 Last Tuesday's terrors were so calamitous that they threaten to shake

Mixmaster 2.9beta31 is now available

2001-09-19 Thread Len Sassaman
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They all have to rearrange their brains now -- [WTC] is the greatest work of art ever.

2001-09-19 Thread Subcommander Bob
Composer creates storm describing attack on US as 'work of art' HAMBURG, Germany, Sept 18 (AFP) - Composer Karlheinz Stockhausen, 73, has roused indignation in Germany for describing last week's catastrophic airplane assaults on New York as "the greatest work of art ever." T

FBI states that terrorists did not use crypto

2001-09-19 Thread Meyer Wolfsheim
Expect a crackdown on Internet anonymity, rather than a reversal of the loosened crypto regulations. The death bell may be tolling for anonymous Internet access in libraries and cyber-cafes, but so far I have yet to see anything to make the case for a second round of the GAK war. [...] In Washin

Re: Mandatory ID Cards

2001-09-19 Thread Meyer Wolfsheim
> MSNBC is reporting that Congress is thinking of requiring all citizens > and non-citizens in the United States to carry ID cards. We're already half-way there. With our photo-id driver's licenses, and required identification before boarding airplanes, convenient travel and lack of anonymity go

"Banning strong encryption would prove as ineffective as shutting down Napster

2001-09-19 Thread Subcommander Bob
"Banning strong encryption would prove as ineffective as shutting down Napster," >From some agitprop "The Terrorists Are Winning the Cyber War" http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-091901techspy.story

CNN poll

2001-09-19 Thread Trei, Peter
While these online polls are rarely terribly meaningful, I will note that CNN has one going now, at http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/19/gen.america.under.attack/ It asks 'Would you accept more government involvement in your life if it meant more security against terrorism?" So far: Yes: 70% 118946

Search Results for 'Censorship Service'

2001-09-19 Thread Jim Choate
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RE: Mandatory ID Cards -biometric association

2001-09-19 Thread Aimee Farr
The conversation elsewhere is out of control...even "negative recognition" in addition to a National Biometric-ID. The fear is that its an "appearance measure." My response on another list was fairly long-winded, but it did include the following: (1) The pretexter. Mr. Terrorist -- he's a suspect

FBI states that terrorists did not use crypto

2001-09-19 Thread Meyer Wolfsheim
Expect a crackdown on Internet anonymity, rather than a reversal of the loosened crypto regulations. The death bell may be tolling for anonymous Internet access in libraries and cyber-cafes, but so far I have yet to see anything to make the case for a second round of the GAK war. [...] In Washin

SIG: A 'Tarpit' That Traps Worms

2001-09-19 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,46964,00.html -- -- The future, as always, belongs to the dreamers. Heinz Pagels The Armadillo Group ,:

Afghanistan asks CNN to leave

2001-09-19 Thread Jim Choate
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/010919/3/1hfgh.html -- -- The future, as always, belongs to the dreamers. Heinz Pagels The Armadillo Group ,::;::-.

WP:FBI investigating if/how terrorists used stego, crypto

2001-09-19 Thread Xeni Jardin
Terrorists' Online Methods Elusive http://www.washtech.com/news/netarch/12557-1.html By Ariana Eunjung Cha and Jonathan Krim, Washington Post Staff Writers Wednesday, September 19, 2001 Government agencies are contacting computer experts for help in understanding how Osama bin Laden and his asso

Re: Mandatory ID Cards (fwd)

2001-09-19 Thread Jim Choate
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 18:19:51 -0500 Subject: Re: Mandatory ID Cards (fwd) Damn, haven't they figured out that tatoos are cheaper and less prone to loss? Jim Choate wrote: > -- Forwarded message -- > Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:08:47 -0700 (PDT) > From: Eric Cordian <[EMAIL PROT

EarthLink rejects FBI\'s request to install Carnivore

2001-09-19 Thread amp
I must say that I'm a bit suprised by this. It's hard to believe that any company in the U.S. would actually stand on principles. Kudos to Earthlink in this case. On Wednesday 19 September 2001 04:45 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > EarthLink rejects FBI's request to install Carnivore > > ATLAN

Re: Mandatory ID Cards -biometric association

2001-09-19 Thread Harmon Seaver
I recall there being fairly high, if not supreme, court decisions in the past confirming that you never have to identify yourself to the police. Other than when driving a car, of course, as that's a "privilege" not a right. So how are they going to force these mandatory ID cards on people? -

Ashcroft's Plans to Shred the Constitution

2001-09-19 Thread Eric Cordian
While Bill Maher loses his advertisers for suggesting that lobbing cruise missiles from 2,000 miles away is more cowardly than personally flying an aircraft into a building, we now have a first look at the "features" present in the anti-Terrorism bill, to be submitted to Congress on Friday. Accor

Operation Infinite Justice

2001-09-19 Thread Tim May
Not to sound like a warmonger, but an idea came to me today, upon hearing that the new military operation is now named "Infinite Justice." Take the multicolored ribbon many are using to symbolize the events of 9/11... Then turn it on its side... Complete the loop and it becomes The infini

How ID Cards might be made de facto mandatory, but not de jure mandatory

2001-09-19 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, September 19, 2001, at 07:00 PM, Harmon Seaver wrote: > I recall there being fairly high, if not supreme, court > decisions in the past confirming that you never have to > identify yourself to the police. Other than when driving a > car, of course, as that's a "privilege" not a

Re: chip-level randomness? (fwd)

2001-09-19 Thread Jim Choate
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:50:53 -0700 From: John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Pawel Krawczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Bram Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: chip-level randomness? The rea

Re: Mandatory ID Cards

2001-09-19 Thread David Honig
At 01:08 PM 9/19/01 -0700, Eric Cordian wrote: >MSNBC is reporting that Congress is thinking of requiring all citizens and >non-citizens in the United States to carry ID cards. What, if any, power granted to congress lets them think they could justify this?

The Register - USA is playing into bin Laden's hands

2001-09-19 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/57/21757.html -- -- Kill them all, take their land, and go there for vacation. Rage Against The Machine The Armadillo Group

Text of "Mobilization Against Terrorism Act" now online

2001-09-19 Thread Declan McCullagh
Text of the "Mobilization Against Terrorism Act": http://vorlon.mit.edu/~declan/mata/ http://www.well.com/~declan/mata/ Background: http://www.politechbot.com/p-02531.html -Declan ** http://www.wartimeliberty.com/article.pl?sid=01/09/20/0333204 Text of President Bush's Anti-Terror

Re: Ashcroft's Plans to Shred the Constitution

2001-09-19 Thread Steve Thompson
Quoting Eric Cordian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > The gauntlet has been thrown down. How long before the estates of > "terrorists" Bill Maher and Tim May are seized at gunpoint for the Greater > Good of the Reich? Doesn't that depend on how quickly they co-operate with the feds? Surely highly intell

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The Star (Canada): "It's the U.S. foreign policy, stupid" ..

2001-09-19 Thread measl
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:15:00 -0500 (CDT) From: MSANEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The Star (Canada): "It's the U.S. foreign policy, stupid" .. Suicide Bombers were NOT "pious avengers"

freedomforum.org: Freedom flees in terror from Sept. 11 disaster

2001-09-19 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.freedomforum.org/templates/document.asp?documentID=14924 -- -- Kill them all, take their land, and go there for vacation. Rage Against The Machine The

The Times - Secret plans for 10-year war

2001-09-19 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2001320010-2001325231,00.html -- -- Kill them all, take their land, and go there for vacation. Rage Against The Machine The A

RE: Text of "Mobilization Against Terrorism Act" now online

2001-09-19 Thread Xeni Jardin
FWIW, "MATA" in Spanish means "kill."