http://slashdot.org/yro/01/09/14/211241.shtml
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Anon wrote:
On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> Right, ninja troops carrying away bespectacled, nerdly remailer
> operators. Here's a better fantasy. They'll hire $1000/night
> superhookers and seduce the remailer operators into giving up their
> keys. Both have about equal chances of re
On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
> > Whoever opts to collect that $5,000,000 will forever live in fear.
>
> Cost/benefit, you do the math. I'd opt for it in a heartbeat.
Assume that you could nearly guarantee a profit of $5mil or more by
shorting your stocks before a terrorist attack
On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 04:11:53PM -0700, citizenQ wrote: > Please
indicate the wider circumstances, particularly the warrantless
circumstances, that this amendment allows cybertapping under, for
those of us without your time or acumen in editing the existing Title
III language.
To achieve enligh
http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/09/14/cell.phones/index.html
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On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 12:16:59AM -, Dr. Evil wrote:
> way 800 numbers work, the 800 number operator (ie, the company that
> pays for it) gets a list of all the numbers that dialed it, because
> he's paying.
Or the contents of the conversations. Read up on your wiretap laws first,
though.
-
On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
> > Whoever opts to collect that $5,000,000 will forever live in fear.
>
> Cost/benefit, you do the math. I'd opt for it in a heartbeat.
Assume that you could nearly guarantee a profit of $5mil or more by
shorting your stocks before a terrorist attack
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On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 03:17:42PM -0700, Greg Broiles wrote:
>
> change the line in /etc/defaults/make.conf so that it reads "MAKE_IDEA=YES".
Actually, adding this line in /etc/make.conf is preferable.
/etc/defaults/make.conf gets overwritten when you upgrade;
/etc/make.conf is for local overrid
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Vadim Antonov wrote:
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>
> Found on a website hosted
Email: Nader Hashemi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 22:55:23 -0400
Title: Robert Fisk on Suicide Bombers
TEXT:
The Independent
Thursday, September 13, 2001
They can run and they can hide. Suicide bombers are here to stay
By Robert Fisk
Not long before the Second World War, Stanl
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On 14 Sep 2001, at 18:40, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> Chefren - On behalf of the civilized readers of the
> cypherpunks list, please accept our apology for the implied
> threats of violence against you by Tim May. He is by no
> means representative of the larger readership. He is alone
> in call
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On 14 Sep 2001, at 10:57, !Dr. Joe Baptista wrote:
> James - I find your statements incredible. America is
> being attacked for being rich and free? I don't think so
>
> If these people are arabs - and i still don't have any
> proof of that - then we can assume they blew up the WTC in
> p
On the Bombings
Noam Chomsky
The terrorist attacks were major atrocities. In scale they may not
reach the level of many others, for example, Clinton's bombing of
the Su
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On 14 Sep 2001, at 11:10, Aimee Farr wrote:
> I don't know why Tim makes me out to be such a bitch. I'm
> pro-crypto and pro-privacy.
You are pretending, not very well, to be someone you are not.
As to whether the real you is a government provocateur, I
have no idea. But the real you is
http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-09-15-004-20-OP-CY-SW
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> > Right, ninja troops carrying away bespectacled, nerdly remailer
> > operators. Here's a better fantasy. They'll hire $1000/night
> > superhookers and seduce the remailer operators into giving up their
> > keys. Both have about equal chances of reality.
>
> Pictures of three of these bespe
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On Saturday, September 15, 2001, at 07:01 AM, Derek Balling wrote:
> Readers Digest and Yahoo are sponsoring a poll that asks various
> questions about what freedoms people are willing to sacrifice...
>
> http://ypolls.yahoo.com/rd1/
>
> Hitting up public opinion for bad policies in a time of so
http://globalarchive.ft.com/globalarchive/article.html?id=010915001404
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> --
> On 14 Sep 2001, at 10:57, !Dr. Joe Baptista wrote:
> > James - I find your statements incredible. America is
> > being attacked for being rich and free? I don't think so
> >
> > If these people are arabs - and i still don't have any
> > p
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The Taliban is not the Soviet Union. They are roughly on par
> with a Somali clan. I predict casualties somewhat higher
> than Somalia, but not much higher.
If we put soldiers on the ground expect cacualites. Lots of them.
The Somali were a
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_155000/155236.stm
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> > >Declan,
> > >
> > >I ignored the first two points because I don't think they're that important.
> > >These "warrantless searches" are emergency orders that have to be followed
> > >by a court order in 48 hours. Sometimes courts are closed and the cops need
> > >data right away. Tuesday eve
On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 03:17:42PM -0700, Greg Broiles wrote:
> Specifically, the OpenSSL that's integrated into FreeBSD doesn't include
> IDEA, by default, because of patent concerns. To remedy that, one needs to
> change the line in /etc/defaults/make.conf so that it reads "MAKE_IDEA=YES".
>
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On 14 Sep 2001, at 16:25, Trei, Peter wrote:
> I haven't paid enough attention to AF to be able to form an
> opinion as to whether she's threatened anyone.
She did not say "I am going to kill a judge". She did
however say that somone else was going to kill a judge. She
and Nomen are try
On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 03:17:42PM -0700, Greg Broiles wrote:
>
> I suspect that the OpenBSD fix will be similar, but it may take some
> time to track it all down.
The following seems to work on OpenBSD-2.8; 2.9 shouldn't be terribly
different.
cd /usr/src/lib/libssl/src/crypto/objects
perl
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On Saturday, September 15, 2001, at 08:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> --
> On 14 Sep 2001, at 16:25, Trei, Peter wrote:
>> I haven't paid enough attention to AF to be able to form an
>> opinion as to whether she's threatened anyone.
>
> She did not say "I am going to kill a judge". She di
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On 14 Sep 2001, at 20:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> War is the health of the State.
Terrorism is a good pretext for taking away our rights.
A war to destroy terrorist regimes is a less good pretext,
and if it succeeds, will remove one pretext. The end of the
war will also spark a dem
Dear tim,no real anarchist craps on like you about a 'fruit ot the poison
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shit and neither would any real anarchist.
Im going to save a lot of your stuff like the cyphernomicon and Im sure
your influence led to AP but dont
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> > Right, ninja troops carrying away bespectacled, nerdly remailer
> > operators. Here's a better fantasy. They'll hire $1000/night
> > superhookers and seduce the remailer operators into giving up their
> > keys. Both have about equal chances of
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Subject: FC: Debate over warrantless Carnivore bill with Stu Baker
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Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 12:05:11 -0400
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Huh?
Meyer Wolfsheim wrote:
> Assume that you could nearly guarantee a
> profit of $5mil or more by shorting your
> stocks before a terrorist attack on the
> World Trade Center.
>
> Would you perpetrate such a crime, and
> frame the "sand-niggers"?
>
> What's the cost/benefit here?
>
> How much
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
> Meyer Wolfsheim wrote:
> > What's the cost/benefit here?
> >
> > How much potential profit would be
> > necessary for a crime like this to
> > occur with profit as the only motive?
>
> I have NO IDEA what this strange post has to do with the original
I'm usually not forwarding messages from cryptography@ here, but this one
is an exception.
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
> Meyer Wolfsheim wrote:
> > What's the cost/benefit here?
> >
> > How much potential profit would be
> > necessary for a crime like this to
> > occur with profit as the only motive?
>
> I have NO IDEA what this strange post has to do with the original
http://www.techreview.com/magazine/oct01/tristramall.asp
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
> Thanks, but I'd go a bit further. The percentage of humans who would be
> capable of such evil has to be vanishingly small. Unfortunately, that
> percentage is not zero so this sort of thing continues to happen.
My point precisely.
> > However, if
On Saturday, September 15, 2001, at 12:17 AM, Declan McCullagh wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 05:26:52PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Or does innocence depend upon the depth of one's pockets?
>
> Looks like you already know the answer to *that* question...
>
> -Declan
> (who may be becomi
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You missed the irony, I guess I should have put in the irony-smiley.
Given the overall context of the bill, the debate on the floor, and it's conclusion
your report is shrill and Chicken-littleish, which does nothing for creating credible
support of resistance to eroding civil liberty. Do your
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
> Nonsense. Targeting innocents is evil according to EVERY human culture.
That's just plain unmitigated bullshit. All human cultures THRIVE on
targeting 'innocents' (ie those who can't/won't defend themselves).
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Jim Choate wrote:
> Yeah, you're fast running out of points that aren't dull.
Perhaps, but that's not my reason. I simply find you to be dull.
> > > They people engaging in them certainly felt justified. Whether you agree
> > > or not is really a different question. It also
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
> "Nomen Nescio" wrote:
>
> > Tim May writes:
> > > Funny, I notice how many of the critics of Cypherpunks and
> > supporters of
> > > this express train approach to repealing the Bill of Rights are
> > > themselves hiding behind Cypherpunks remaile
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On 14 Sep 2001, at 23:30, Anonymous wrote:
> > Pictures of three of these bespectacled, nerdly remailer operators:
> >
> > http://www.melontraffickers.com/pics/DC8_Lucky_BDU_4.jpg
> > http://www.melontraffickers.com/pics/rabbiGoneNuts.jpeg
> > http:/
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> If you're upset that "critics of the Cypherpunks" are able to speak
> freely then you shouldn't have supported the technologies that enable
> them to do so. Free speech is for everyone, not just those who toe your
> line of violence and blood revenge.
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Ickepass this onFri Sep 14 10:29:49 2001ALICE IN
WONDERLAND AND THE WTC DISASTERIF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR THE FORCE BEHIND
THE U.S. ATROCITIES JUST ASK: WHO BENEFITS?"Nothing would be what it
is, Because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary-wise -w
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Jim Choate wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote:
>
> > Have there ever been any large-scale terroristic attacks where profit was
> > the only motive?
>
> terrorism <> economics. Economics as a direct goal isn't the issue in
> terrorism. You're 'mixing your meta
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, John Young wrote:
> What methods could be used to assure continued access to
> crypto even if possession and/or usage is outlawed?
Well, if you wouldn't be so coy about mirroring, I would love to push
anything cypherpunkly to Mojo Nation and Freenet. It is going to be very
d
The cpunk archives, Cryptome and a host of other crypto
resources are likely to be shutdown if the war panic continues.
What methods could be used to assure continued access to
crypto even if possession and/or usage is outlawed?
That is to do what NSA and its global sisters do to keep crypto
d
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On 14 Sep 2001, at 23:30, Anonymous wrote:
> > Pictures of three of these bespectacled, nerdly remailer operators:
> >
> > http://www.melontraffickers.com/pics/DC8_Lucky_BDU_4.jpg
> > http://www.melontraffickers.com/pics/rabbiGoneNuts.jpeg
> > http:/
Nomen Nescio wrote:
> Sandfort:
>
> > I have NO IDEA what this strange post has to do with the
> original question.
> > I'm a libertarian. As such, I see no problem in doing well by
> doing good.
> > Just because I would jump at $5 million (plus Witness
> Relocation) to finger
> > Bin Laden does
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Roeland Meyer wrote:
> Personally, I have no problems with
> US State telling me I can't do business with terrorists. Do you?
Absolutely I do. I would have no problem with the USG placing
people/countries/whatever on lists that I could use as a reference to make
a *voluta
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Jim Choate wrote:
> Yeah, you're fast running out of points that aren't dull.
Perhaps, but that's not my reason. I simply find you to be dull.
> > > They people engaging in them certainly felt justified. Whether you agree
> > > or not is really a different question. It also
> >From: "Baker, Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "'Declan McCullagh'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >cc: "Albertazzie, Sally" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >"Baker, Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >
> >Declan,
> >
> >I ignored the first two points because I
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote:
> See my second to last post, Jim. I cannot think of any massive terrorist
> attack in which personal gain was the only motive. If there are any, the
> number is extremely small.
>
> Different societies have different definitions of evil; some evils a
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote:
> Have there ever been any large-scale terroristic attacks where profit was
> the only motive?
terrorism <> economics. Economics as a direct goal isn't the issue in
terrorism. You're 'mixing your metaphors'...
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On Saturday, September 15, 2001, at 11:37 AM, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote:
>
> Now is a perfect time for the Government to round up and arrest those
> people whose imprisonment might otherwise inspire protests or public
> outrage, whether or not these arrests are related to terrorism.
I'm watching an A
Tim May writes:
> Funny, I notice how many of the critics of Cypherpunks and supporters of
> this express train approach to repealing the Bill of Rights are
> themselves hiding behind Cypherpunks remailers, Hushmail aliases, and
> Ziplip nyms.
If you're upset that "critics of the Cypherpunks"
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Jim Choate wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote:
>
> > Have there ever been any large-scale terroristic attacks where profit was
> > the only motive?
>
> terrorism <> economics. Economics as a direct goal isn't the issue in
> terrorism. You're 'mixing your meta
On Saturday, September 15, 2001, at 12:40 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> Tim May writes:
>> Funny, I notice how many of the critics of Cypherpunks and supporters
>> of
>> this express train approach to repealing the Bill of Rights are
>> themselves hiding behind Cypherpunks remailers, Hushmail aliase
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Jim Choate wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote:
> >
> > > Have there ever been any large-scale terroristic attacks where profit was
> > > the only motive?
> >
> > terrorism <> economics. Economics as a direct
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Tim May wrote:
> No, I'm not "upset." I said it was "funny," as in "ironic."
Bull, your implication was they were hypocrites and cowards. Don't white
wash it.
> The main critics of anonymity are the main users here.
>
> Hilarious.
Actually it isn't. It's a perfect exampl
Sandy Sandfort wrote:
> Nonsense. Targeting innocents is evil according to EVERY human culture.
> The fact that people do it, does not make it "relative." It just makes them
> evil. Period.
Not according to Tim May. He was the one who wrote that he was becoming
convinced that Tim McVeigh had
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote:
> [This is becoming a rat-hole, and I'm not interested getting too far into
> it. I think most of you understand my point.]
Yeah, you're fast running out of points that aren't dull.
> On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Jim Choate wrote:
>
> > > Different societie
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
> Meyer Wolfsheim wrote:
>
> > Have there ever been any large-scale
> > terroristic attacks where profit was
> > the only motive?
>
> Who said anything about profit?
I did.
> The point under discussion was cost/benefit analysis. Don't engage in
> Inch
Plans for the renovation of the Pentagon are being discussed on C-Span
right now. Interesting sound-bites. Costs of replacing the Pentagon vs.
rebuilding are the current topic.
The URL for the project reports a 500 error currently:
http://renovation.pentagon.mil/
"The Pentagon is not compliant
On Saturday, September 15, 2001, at 01:04 PM, Incognito Innominatus
wrote:
> Sandy Sandfort wrote:
>> Nonsense. Targeting innocents is evil according to EVERY human
>> culture.
>> The fact that people do it, does not make it "relative." It just
>> makes them
>> evil. Period.
>
> Not accordi
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
> Meyer Wolfsheim wrote:
>
> > Have there ever been any large-scale
> > terroristic attacks where profit was
> > the only motive?
>
> Who said anything about profit?
I did.
> The point under discussion was cost/benefit analysis. Don't engage in
> Inch
Incognito Innominatus wrote:
> Sandy Sandfort wrote:
> > Nonsense. Targeting innocents is evil according to EVERY human culture.
> > The fact that people do it, does not make it "relative." It
> just makes them
> > evil. Period.
>
> Not according to Tim May. He was the one who wrote that he w
Meyer Wolfsheim wrote:
> My point is that such an attack could occur
> with nothing more than economic factors as
> motivation.
Of course, but I don't see how that advances any discussion of what ACTUALLY
happened on the 11th. I don't think there is any reason to engage in a
theoretical discuss
[This is becoming a rat-hole, and I'm not interested getting too far into
it. I think most of you understand my point.]
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Jim Choate wrote:
> > Different societies have different definitions of evil; some evils are
> > hard to justify by any means, however.
>
> They people eng
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Tim May wrote:
> Amerika is not a free country. Hasn't been since Lincoln.
'Since' or 'because'...
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Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.
It might be beneficial for those who vacuum and mirror to post
a note here. A magic mirror list on JYA would spread the load.
On Saturday 15 September 2001 12:51 pm, John Young wrote:
> Blocks and limitations on downloads have been removed
> on Cryptome and JYA. We ask that bots and spiders be
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
> Apples and oranges. There is a world of difference between targeting
> innocents (the focus of my post) and targeting military targets with
> resultant innocent casualties.
That's a convenient, and arbitrary, distinction.
It's wrong for me to kill
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C'punks,
I haven't had much luck in researching something. Several years back,
Donald Trump proposed a high-rise complex for New York City that would
feature a kilometer-high skyscraper. Does anyone have a URL about that
plan?
I'd love to see the WTC replaced with a building over twice as tall
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"Nomen Nescio" wrote:
> Tim May writes:
> > Funny, I notice how many of the critics of Cypherpunks and
> supporters of
> > this express train approach to repealing the Bill of Rights are
> > themselves hiding behind Cypherpunks remailers, Hushmail aliases, and
> > Ziplip nyms.
>
> If you're
On Saturday, September 15, 2001, at 02:07 PM, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote:
> I fail to see any truly effective measures that can be taken to prevent
> determined attackers from committing acts of terrorism. The only course
> of
> action, I believe, is to eliminate their desire to commit these attacks.
> I'd love to see the WTC replaced with a building over twice as tall as the
> twin towers, the irrefutable tallest building in the world. Something like
> Trump's kilometer tower would be a great symbol of recovery and
> transcendence.
I agree with this. The Twin Towers should be built bigger
I'll try again, not as an attachment.
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Subject: RFC: increased interest for cryptographic software?
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 21:55:55 +0200 (CEST)
From: Herbert Valerio Riedel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
...hope this is not too off-topic...
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At 08:25 AM 9/15/2001 -0700, Tim May wrote:
>On Saturday, September 15, 2001, at 07:01 AM, Derek Balling wrote:
>
>>Readers Digest and Yahoo are sponsoring a poll that asks various
>>questions about what freedoms people are willing to sacrifice...
>>
>>http://ypolls.yahoo.com/rd1/
>>
>>Hitting up
Original Message
Subject: [FYI] (Fwd) Please make stable NON-US homes for
strong crypto projects (fwd)
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 00:31:56 +0200 (CEST)
From: Hauke Johannknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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offtopic (or not) like t
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> --
> On 14 Sep 2001, at 10:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Many have lost a great deal. And this is fueling a
> > potential war which will make vietnam look like a broadway
> > comedy. many american boys are going to die over this one
> > and i
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Don't forget James - if in fact Bin Landen is involved in
> > this then the facts remain that the US Government sponsored
> > and assisted him during the Russian occupation of
> > afganistan.
>
> No the US government did not, though it surely woul
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