I Love Tim May

2001-08-30 Thread Anonymous
Tim - I've been off the list for a long time but return to find that I actually agree with a bunch of your posts. What the fuck happened? Aimee you have done wonders for love. Feds here put my bits into the vacuumed up collection of the day for later style and word adjacency analysis and det

SIG: NetSlaves (Hi-Tech Journalism)

2001-08-30 Thread Jim Choate
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Wuss-ninnies object to discussions on the list

2001-08-30 Thread amp
The really funny thing about this is that if you search through for archives I'd be willing to bet you'd get a hundred hits or so for almost exactly the quote below. > "Tim May is a scary guy with a lot of guns who says he's going to defend > his rights. I've been on and off the list at vario

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Re: Wuss-ninnies object to discussions on the list

2001-08-30 Thread Dr. Evil
Sandy, Aimee, Unicorn, Dillinger, Choate, Nomen Nescio, what about me? Am I not worthy of this rant?

Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-30 Thread Anonymous
Anonymous wrote: > The cypherpunk world replaces coercion with cooperation. It > provides the shield of anonymity against those who would offer > violence and aggression. As we move into the information age, > control of information is control of the individual. Thus, privacy, > control of info

Re: Cypherpunks <> Crypto-Anarchist

2001-08-30 Thread Bill Stewart
Some Zen Poetry Choat's Noh Crypto Anarchist An empty message At 11:12 PM 08/29/2001 -0500, Jim Choate wrote: > -- > > > natsugusa ya...tsuwamonodomo ga...yume no ato > sum

Re: Stealth Computing Abuses TCP Checksums

2001-08-30 Thread Paul Pomes
At 11:25 PM 8/29/01 -0700, Bill Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >A group of researchers at Notre Dame figured out how to use the >TCP Checksum calculations to get other computers to do number-crunching for them. > >"Below, we present an implementation of a parasitic computer >u

RE: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-30 Thread measl
On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Duncan Frissell wrote: > Is Tom Clancy going to spend much time in stir for machine gunning the US > Congress at the end of Debt of Honor? Possibly: see the campaign to put away John Ross, author of "Unintended Consequences". www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39696d3b3c

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2001-08-30 Thread John Young
Day 2: http://cryptome.org/jdb040901-2.htm Completion of direct questioning by Robert Leen, Jim's many-times-fired attorney, and cross-examination by Robb London. Two cpunks are mentioned by Jim by name, with glowingly admirable death kisses. But he also kisses Leen (says Leen threatened t

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2001-08-30 Thread Jim Choate
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Re: Stealth Computing Abuses TCP Checksums

2001-08-30 Thread Greg Broiles
At 07:00 AM 8/30/2001 -0500, Dean, James wrote: >Don't fall for this. After registering at www.nature.com (supplying >personal details), you find you'll have to pay to see the article. See , including a .PDF of the article at

RE: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-30 Thread jamesd
-- Reese > > You [Aimee Farr]are entirely too smug and happy, at the > > thought of these various mechanisms useful for preserving > > privacy and anonymity going the way of the dodo. Aimee Farr > That is not my attitude at all, Reese. It is your attitude. You keep telling us privacy is i

Re: Borders UK and privacy

2001-08-30 Thread Declan McCullagh
It makes sense that human debris would be a portion of the waste removed, but compared to food items, dead rats, discarded trash and newspapers, it strikes me that it would not be an especially large portion. --Declan At 09:47 PM 8/29/01 -0400, Ryan Arneson wrote: >Someone tell the Travel Chan

Re: Wuss-ninnies object to discussions on the list

2001-08-30 Thread David Honig
At 08:56 PM 8/29/01 -0700, Tim May wrote: >"Blacknet is an interesting idea, but only if it used by Steele and his >CIA friends. Can you assure us it will not be used except for good uses, >such as those by the CIA and DEA?" > "We develop the tecnology. The policy and how you implement them is

Re: Wuss-ninnies object to discussions on the list

2001-08-30 Thread Batman Svejk
[demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] >Next, we started seeing sissies like Ray Dillinger, er, "Bear," some >sort of polyamoristic wuss-ninny from northern California, urging us to >change the subject, to talk about the nurturing and children-friendly >aspects of

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RE: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-30 Thread jamesd
-- On 27 Aug 2001, at 16:00, Aimee Farr wrote: > Your idea does seem to offer promise as a vehicle for treason, > espionage, trade secrets, malicious mischief, piracy, bribery > of public officials, concealment of assets, transmission of > wagering information, murder for hire, threatening or

Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-30 Thread jamesd
-- On 26 Aug 2001, at 10:46, Tim May wrote: > Anyway, it is not easy to create a public company, a public > nexus of attack, and then deploy systems which target that > high-value sweet spot. The real bankers and the regulators > won't allow such things into the official banking system. (Why >

Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-30 Thread Tim May
On Thursday, August 30, 2001, at 06:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Duncan Frissell wrote: > >> Is Tom Clancy going to spend much time in stir for machine gunning the >> US >> Congress at the end of Debt of Honor? > > Possibly: see the campaign to put away John Ross, autho

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Re: Wuss-ninnies object to discussions on the list

2001-08-30 Thread Tim May
On Thursday, August 30, 2001, at 08:50 AM, Batman Svejk wrote: >> Next, we started seeing sissies like Ray Dillinger, er, "Bear," some >> sort of polyamoristic wuss-ninny from northern California, urging us to >> change the subject, to talk about the nurturing and children-friendly >> aspects of

Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-30 Thread jamesd
-- On 27 Aug 2001, at 21:40, Nomen Nescio wrote: > "Freedom fighters in communist-controlled regimes." How much > money do they have? More importantly, how much are they > willing and able to spend on anonymity/privacy/black-market > technologies? These guys aren't rolling in dough. Freedo

RE: Agents kick crypto ass....was The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-30 Thread jamesd
-- On 27 Aug 2001, at 23:22, Aimee Farr wrote: > Considering the incredibly bad timing of this discussion in > light of world events, I don't see how you could call ME a > provocateur. My jibe was good-natured. You keep posting the > equivalent of classified ads. I know who wants this shit

News: "U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship"

2001-08-30 Thread Tim May
This report says the U.S. Gov't. has plans to make "SafeWeb," the Web proxy company it helped fund through the CIA, available to Chinese citizens who want to bypass their government's censorship. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010830/wr/tech_china_internet_report_dc_1.

Re: News: "U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship"

2001-08-30 Thread Tim May
On Thursday, August 30, 2001, at 12:16 PM, Adam Shostack wrote: > As far as your opinions of our business, well, I'm really uninterested > in getting into a pissing match with you. The reality is that > customers and investors give us money tp produce privacy tools, and > they, not you, are the

Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-30 Thread mmotyka
Declan McCullagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : >On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 05:28:24PM -0700, Ray Dillinger wrote: >> For Tim: >> Why are you attempting to provoke public discussion about things >> that could get people jailed or worse for discussing them? It's >> interesting to see you post your "s

Re: Borders UK and privacy

2001-08-30 Thread Eugene Leitl
On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, Duncan Frissell wrote: > How about a tailored virus that modifies your DNA on a rotating basis > in non significant fashion so that you're constantly "new". I wonder Unless you go for full sequencing, you would have to jumble restriction sites. > if that would be theoretic

Re: News: "U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship"

2001-08-30 Thread mmotyka
"Faustine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : >Adam wrote: >On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 10:02:54AM -0700, Tim May wrote: >| Alas, the marketing of such "dissident-grade untraceability" is >| difficult. Partly because anything that is dissident-grade is also >| pedophile-grade, money launderer-grade, freedo

Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-30 Thread Tim May
On Thursday, August 30, 2001, at 12:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Bear may not be as far off the mark as you think. Remember back when the > hot news of the day was militia groups how advocating the violent > overthrow of the government and playing soldier in the woods could > constitute inte

Re: Borders UK and privacy

2001-08-30 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, Duncan Frissell wrote: > How about a tailored virus that modifies your DNA on a rotating basis in > non significant fashion so that you're constantly "new". I wonder if > that would be theoretically possible? Fun times. You would have to do it to the 'junk' and 'long term

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2001-08-30 Thread Peter Wayner
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Re: Wuss-ninnies object to discussions on the list

2001-08-30 Thread Anonymous
> And I expect you are just another of the anonymous or pseudonymous > ranters, maybe the same one recently using "Nomen Nescio" or "A > Melon." I know for sure that there's more than one. "Any message posted to cypherpunks via an anonymous remailer gets an automatic +2 on hit points, for it pra

Re: Anonymous Posting

2001-08-30 Thread Anonymous
Tim May wrote: > I don't recall the context, but I don't have any such friends or > even acquaintances. Even those I know on the Far Right don't want to > kill _all_ Jews, just the pesky freedom-stealing ones, and the > millions who form the Zionist Occupation Government in the Zionist > Entity of

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Re: Anonymous Posting

2001-08-30 Thread Frog2
Tim May wrote: > I don't recall the context, but I don't have any such friends or > even acquaintances. Even those I know on the Far Right don't want to > kill _all_ Jews, just the pesky freedom-stealing ones, and the > millions who form the Zionist Occupation Government in the Zionist > Entity of

Re: Stealth Computing Abuses TCP Checksums

2001-08-30 Thread Paul Pomes
At 07:00 AM 8/30/01 -0500, "Dean, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Don't fall for this. After registering at www.nature.com (supplying >personal details), you find you'll have to pay to see the article. What a surprise that the leading science journal in the world charges for the latest cont

RE: News: "U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship"

2001-08-30 Thread Phillip H. Zakas
> Faustine wrote: > I wouldn't trust either of them with anything significant. More importantly, the claims that safeweb/triangle boy actually works may be misleading to the people who will rely on its claims of securely circumventing government censorship in china. The entire in/out bound traf

Re: Wuss-ninnies object to discussions on the list

2001-08-30 Thread Dr. Evil
> You've left no impression on me. And I expect you are just another of > the anonymous or pseudonymous ranters, maybe the same one recently using > "Nomen Nescio" or "A Melon." I wonder what Senor Escobar thinks of all this. Eh Senor? We haven't heard your street-wise opinions from the great

Re: News: "U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship"

2001-08-30 Thread Meyer Wolfsheim
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, Faustine wrote: > And as long as you have companies like ZeroKnowledge who are > willing/gullible/greedy/just plain fucking stupid enough to sell their > betas to the NSA, you never will. Okay, that clinches it. You're a moron. Why *shoul

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Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-30 Thread measl
On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: > But > even given the tattered First Amendment, there is still a difference > between speech and action. Complete and utter bullshit. > -Declan -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized

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Re: "U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship"

2001-08-30 Thread Faustine
Mike wrote: "Faustine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : >Adam wrote: >On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 10:02:54AM -0700, Tim May wrote: >| Alas, the marketing of such "dissident-grade untraceability" is >| difficult. Partly because anything that is dissident-grade is also >| pedophile-grade, money launderer-g

Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-30 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 12:42:24PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Bear may not be as far off the mark as you think. Remember back when the > hot news of the day was militia groups how advocating the violent > overthrow of the government and playing soldier in the woods could > constitute intent

Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-30 Thread mmotyka
Declan McCullagh wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 12:42:24PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Bear may not be as far off the mark as you think. Remember back when the > > hot news of the day was militia groups how advocating the violent > > overthrow of the government and playing soldier in

RE: CDR: Re: Wuss-ninnies object to discussions on the list

2001-08-30 Thread Batman Svejk
>>> aspects of crypto. Fuck that. This is not some list for leftie greens >>> and wuss-ninnies. >> >> Not all of the leftie greens object to discussions on this list, >> but if this (your?) list is not for greens, maybe those with different >> political views than your own should go away? > >If y

Stealth Computing Abuses TCP Checksums

2001-08-30 Thread Bill Stewart
http://fyi.cnn.com/2001/TECH/internet/08/29/stealth.computing/index.html http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/08/29/199205&mode=thread A group of researchers at Notre Dame figured out how to use the TCP Checksum calculations to get other computers to do number-crunching for them. "Belo

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2001-08-30 Thread A. Melon
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2001-08-30 Thread Jim Choate
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Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-30 Thread measl
On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I think the safest convenient path to development is to develop > untraceable cash in the US with restrictions on any large > transfers. Absolutely unacceptable: (1) Define "large"; (2) Define a (sane) rationale to justify this type of intrusion -

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Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-30 Thread jamesd
-- On 28 Aug 2001, at 7:13, Jim Choate wrote: > What makes you think that new regime who used your tool to take > over won't then shoot you and take 'your profits'. By > participating you may in fact be signing your own death > warrant. All the liberty that there is in the world today resu