Re: Thinking About the Crypto Unthinkable

2001-08-27 Thread Bill Stewart
At 08:11 PM 08/26/2001 -0700, Tim May wrote: >This said, I wouldn't advise _anyone_ to study "policy" >(or its earlier incarnations, "Operations Research." >"Systems Analysis," or the utterly execrable "General Systems," a la >Bertanlanffy). Hey, I resemble that remark (Undergrad and Master's de

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Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-27 Thread mean-green
At 10:46 AM 8/26/2001 -0700, Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Sunday, August 26, 2001, at 09:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Right on target. There is one aspect to this loss of nerve not >> mentioned: the correlation between those with the means and interest to >>pursue these avenues

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Re: nodes

2001-08-27 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 09:25:20PM -0700, Tim May wrote: > Lance has not posted a message to the Cypherpunks list in several years, > maybe more, that I can recall. Lance did post a message in the last month announcing that his cpunx node was going down. Too much bandwidth devoted to spam, he sa

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Re: biochemwomdterror in dc

2001-08-27 Thread Tim May
On Monday, August 27, 2001, at 05:39 AM, Declan McCullagh wrote: > today... > > TERRORIST ATTACKS Defense Department (DOD), Office of the Secretary of > Defense (F.R. Page 42998) Meeting of the Advisory Panel To Assess the > Capabilities for Domestic Response to Terrorist Attacks Involving > W

Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-27 Thread Nomen Nescio
Tim May writes: > Draw this graph I outlined. Think about where the markets are for tools > for privacy and untraceability. Realize that many of the "far out' sweet > spot applications are not necessarily immoral: think of freedom fighters > in communist-controlled regimes, think of distributio

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Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-27 Thread Tim May
On Monday, August 27, 2001, at 02:00 PM, Aimee Farr wrote: > Tim May: > >> So I guess my candidate submission for the P.E.T. workshop might not be >> well-received: "BlackNet; Case History of a Practically Untraceable >> System for Buying and Selling Corporate and National Secrets. > > No, you wa

Re: Lawyers, Guns, and Money

2001-08-27 Thread cubic-dog
On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: > On Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 10:15:19PM -0400, Faustine wrote, quoting Tim: > > > > >Do you think you are preparing to have "enormous influence" on policy? > > > > I'm preparing to try. > > If you want to have "enormous influence" on policy, you'd be

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Agents kick crypto ass....was The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-27 Thread Aimee Farr
> Despite frequently urging newcomers to "read the archives--or at least > use some search engines!," nitwits like Aimee are only just now figuring > out what was crystal clear in 1992-3. The EEA wasn't passed until 96. I failed to mention Title 18 United States Code, Section(s) 794(c). "Agents

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2001-08-27 Thread Subcommander Bob
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Re: biochemwomdterror in dc

2001-08-27 Thread Faustine
Tim wrote: On Monday, August 27, 2001, at 05:39 AM, Declan McCullagh wrote: > TERRORIST ATTACKS Defense Department (DOD), Office of the Secretary of > Defense (F.R. Page 42998) Meeting of the Advisory Panel To Assess the > Capabilities for Domestic Response to Terrorist Attacks Involving > Wea

Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-27 Thread Tim May
On Monday, August 27, 2001, at 12:40 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote: > Tim May writes: >> Draw this graph I outlined. Think about where the markets are for tools >> for privacy and untraceability. Realize that many of the "far out' >> sweet >> spot applications are not necessarily immoral: think of free

RE: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-27 Thread Aimee Farr
Tim May: > So I guess my candidate submission for the P.E.T. workshop might not be > well-received: "BlackNet; Case History of a Practically Untraceable > System for Buying and Selling Corporate and National Secrets. No, you want E.E.T. -- "Espionage-enhancing Technologies." Some of you need a

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2001-08-27 Thread Jon Beets
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RE: Agents kick crypto ass....was The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-27 Thread Aimee Farr
> Your role as an agent provocateur here is noted. Your role as a son-uv-a-bitch to me is noted. Trying to keep people out of trouble is a "provocateur?" Gee, sorry to dampen your conspiracy. I posted Regan because it was directly relevant to this discussion, and it makes a couple of points --

Re: Agents kick crypto ass....was The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-27 Thread Tim May
On Monday, August 27, 2001, at 09:22 PM, Aimee Farr wrote: >> Your role as an agent provocateur here is noted. > > Your role as a son-uv-a-bitch to me is noted. > > Trying to keep people out of trouble is a "provocateur?" Gee, sorry to > dampen your conspiracy. > > I posted Regan because it was d

Re: biochemwomdterror in dc

2001-08-27 Thread Declan McCullagh
It's a little outside my beat, so I don't usually go. Maybe next time I'll go and post a summary or write a Wired article. --Declan On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 09:25:07AM -0700, Tim May wrote: > I've been seeing Declan forward a bunch of these terse paragraphs > announcing these meetings. I never

Re: Agents kick crypto ass....was The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-27 Thread Tim May
On Monday, August 27, 2001, at 07:53 PM, Aimee Farr wrote: > The EEA wasn't passed until 96. I failed to mention Title 18 United > States > Code, Section(s) 794(c). > > "Agents kick crypto ass." > http://www.fas.org/irp/ops/ci/regan_complaint.html' > That wouldn't be what has your little m

Re: nodes

2001-08-27 Thread Declan McCullagh
It was actually bounced messages, not spam, the was the problem. That's what he told me in private email, not on the list, my mistake. -Declan On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 06:14:46AM -1000, Reese wrote: > At 08:25 8/27/2001 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote: > >On Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 09:25:20PM -0700,

RE: Agents kick crypto ass....was The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-27 Thread Aimee Farr
> Not so bright, though. And you've outed yourself by not-so-subtle hints > about the SS "prime rib." When I said "prime rib," I meant PRIME RIB. Our little hamburger joint has taken on greater culinary responsibility. ~Aimee

RE: Agents kick crypto ass....was The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-27 Thread Aimee Farr
> You complained a few weeks ago about the timing of the "help me make > bombz" posts...as if we have any choice about when AOL-accounted narcs > post such requests. I don't think I complained about their timing, I think I complained about their very existence. > And now, bizarrely, you think th

RE: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-27 Thread Aimee Farr
Reese wrote: > >This is not legal advice. It's an obituary. :) > > Owning a vehicle that will exceed the speed limit is not a crime. > Driving a vehicle that will exceed the speed limit is not a crime. > Exceeding the speed limit is a crime and is a ticketable offense, > at the least. > > Mechan

Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-27 Thread Nomen Nescio
On Monday, August 27, 2001, at 12:56 PM, Tim May wrote: > On Monday, August 27, 2001, at 12:40 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote: > > "Freedom fighters in communist-controlled regimes." How much money > > do they have? More importantly, how much are they willing and able to > > spend on anonymity/privacy/b

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