Re: Anonymous Posting

2001-08-26 Thread Tim May
On Sunday, August 26, 2001, at 12:11 AM, Reese wrote: > It's easy to stay on topic, or on a topic, it's another thing to be > appropriate. Tim is good, but easy improvement is within reach, as > you sort of noted. Fuck off. I'll take constructive criticism from people who are better writers th

Re: Comped scribblers the bane of conferences

2001-08-26 Thread Tim May
On Saturday, August 25, 2001, at 11:51 PM, dmolnar wrote: > So what I should do now, I guess, is contact the Morpheus team and > convince them to come. maybe submit something if they feel like it. > > I need to add another comment. I don't know if you speak for the P.E.T. Workshop or not, Dave,

Re: Comped scribblers the bane of conferences

2001-08-26 Thread Tim May
On Saturday, August 25, 2001, at 11:51 PM, dmolnar wrote: > > > On Sat, 25 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote: > >> (What might? Putting several of the main architects of competing >> systems >> like Freedom, Mojo, Morpheus, Mixmaster, etc. together in a room with >> plenty of blackboards, a lot of beer, a

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2001-08-26 Thread John Young
Here's the 14-page court docket for Jim Bell's case through August 25, 2001: http://cryptome.org/jdb082501.htm This lists several of Jim's appeals, the last on August 14. For a flavor of what's been going on to deny Jim his rights here's a footnote to a "Sentencing Memorandum" of August 9 b

The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-26 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 25 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote: > At the June meeting I drew a graph which makes the point clearly. A pity > I can't draw it here. (Yeah, there are ways. My new Web page should have > some drawings soon. But this list is about ASCII.) > > Plot "Value of Being Untraceable in a Transaction"

Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-26 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 25 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote: > RATIONAL ACTORS > > The obvious point is that rational actors never pay more for > untraceability than they get back in perceived benefits. Someone will > not pay $1000 for privacy/untraceability technology or tools that only > nets them $500 in perceive

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2001-08-26 Thread John Young
We've put up some 80 court filings in the Bell case, hyperlinked to the August 25 docket cited here yesterday: http://cryptome.org/jdb082501.htm Recall that Judge Tanner sealed all the public files that were available when he learned one of the filings provided names of the jury pool and name

Re: Bell Case Files

2001-08-26 Thread Eugene Leitl
Out of curiousity, does anybody mirror cryptome et al. on Freenet and MojoNation? I would do it, but it's easier if you have access to the raw filesystem. On Sun, 26 Aug 2001, John Young wrote: > We've put up some 80 court filings in the Bell case, > hyperlinked to the August 25 docket cited her

Re: PETA gets control of parody peta.org domain, says appeals court

2001-08-26 Thread georgemw
On 25 Aug 2001, at 12:10, Declan McCullagh wrote: > http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46313,00.html > > Ethical Treatment of PETA Domain > By Declan McCullagh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > 2:00 a.m. Aug. 25, 2001 PDT > > WASHINGTON -- A federal appeals court has ruled that a web

Re: Reporter's shield laws

2001-08-26 Thread David Honig
At 06:12 PM 8/25/01 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote: >I agree that John Young should be considered a reporter. And also a ... >Still, I think it's possible to differentiate between people involved or >suspected of being involved in a criminal act (Clinton, Tripp, Condit, >perhaps Vinnie, in your

Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-26 Thread mean-green
At 09:56 PM 8/25/2001 -0700, Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: some really great stuff deleted >CONCLUSION: > >To really do something about untraceability you need to be untraceable. > >Draw this graph I outlined. Think about where the markets are for tools for privacy and untraceability.

Re: Gnutella scanning instead of service providers.

2001-08-26 Thread georgemw
On 25 Aug 2001, at 16:06, Gary Jeffers wrote: > My fellow Cypherpunks, > >Ray Dillinger believes that scanning would assist oppressors as > much as regular users. Joseph Ashwood agrees with this and further > thinks that the Internet overhead of a scanner would be a serious > problem. > The

Re: Lawyers, Guns, and Money

2001-08-26 Thread georgemw
On 25 Aug 2001, at 21:39, Jim Windle wrote: > As an addendum I would add Claude Shannon. In fact I can't think of a single lawyer >in the 20th century who had the long term influesnce on society that either Shannon >or von Neumann did. The list of other influential non-lawyers might also be

Re: Reporter's shield laws

2001-08-26 Thread Tim May
On Sunday, August 26, 2001, at 09:02 AM, David Honig wrote: > At 06:12 PM 8/25/01 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote: >> I agree that John Young should be considered a reporter. And also a > ... > >> Still, I think it's possible to differentiate between people involved >> or >> suspected of being invo

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Re: CDR: Re: Reporter's shield laws

2001-08-26 Thread Jim Choate
On Sun, 26 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote: > Except that all it takes is for the judge to grant the witness > transactional or use immunity. Or even full immunity (less common, from > what I hear). > Much on the Net. Here's just a flavoring: > > "Title 18 U.S.C. ' 6002 provides use immunity instead o

Re: Gnutella scanning instead of service providers.

2001-08-26 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Sat, 25 Aug 2001, Gary Jeffers wrote: >My fellow Cypherpunks, > > Ray Dillinger believes that scanning would assist oppressors as >much as regular users. Joseph Ashwood agrees with this and further >thinks that the Internet overhead of a scanner would be a serious >problem. Not really.

Re: Jim Bell sentenced to 10 years in prison

2001-08-26 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Sat, 25 Aug 2001, John Young wrote: >See 9-page judgment in TIF format: > > http://cryptome.org/jdb-hit.tif (262KB) > >In addition to 10 years Jim was also fined $10,000 due >immediately and faces three years of probation. No >computer use and a long list of other prohibitions >including

Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-26 Thread Tim May
On Sunday, August 26, 2001, at 09:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Right on target. There is one aspect to this loss of nerve not > mentioned: the correlation between those with the means and interest to > pursue these avenues and those with merely the interest. There are a couple of points

Re: Reporter's shield laws

2001-08-26 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 09:55:05AM -0700, Tim May wrote: > Except that all it takes is for the judge to grant the witness > transactional or use immunity. Or even full immunity (less common, from > what I hear). > > "Mr. McCullagh, the court hereby grants you transactional immunity for > your tes

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