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UK manufacturer launches stool sampling cyber-loo

2001-07-12 Thread Jim Choate
I remember something like this already being done in Japan w/ regard to public toilets... http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/28/20340.html James Choate Product Certification - Operating Systems Staff Engineer 512-436-1062 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Most of a nation on probation? (GPS convicts)

2001-07-12 Thread Aimee Farr
> On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Aimee Farr wrote: > > >Tim's comment about facial recognition ("Smart CCTV" on the > signage) being a > >social mindgame does bring to mind predictions of a surveillance caste > >system and real-space criminal "blocks" or enclaves (i.e. Escape From New > >York). "We're watchi

General Ashcroft make his move

2001-07-12 Thread George
General Ashcroft has announce the Second Amendment applies to individuals. This will apparently affect the case of a Tim Emerson, a Texas physician accused of violating a 1994 law barring people under restraining orders from having guns. The DOJ is currently appealing the case claiming the Second

Soon Big Brother will know your shit...

2001-07-12 Thread Roy M. Silvernail
Spotted off Drudge: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_1433000/1433904.stm Yes, sir, I sure want my toilet to decide that I need more roughage. The page describes a toilet with automated stool and urine analysis, which communicates over the net to a doctor or even a grocery store

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Big Brother the toilet troll

2001-07-12 Thread mmotyka
Um, what would the price premium be for a toilet that operates as a stoolie? 10X? 20X? Don't hold your breath waiting for it to become a standard. Ever seen the commodes in Japan with all sorts of knobs and switches? Reminds me of a joke I heard about same long ago. Rather than take serious risks

Re: Who can tax a satellite?

2001-07-12 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 10:19:51PM -1000, Reese wrote: > > I nub you too. Do the letters "F O" mean anything to you? Now this is certainly a new high point in cypherpunklian discourse. -Declan

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Re: Big Brother the toilet troll

2001-07-12 Thread Harmon Seaver
Funny, I just read a piece in a medical journal about these. They were talking about a approx. $1500 price tag, which is not too outrageous. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Um, what would the price premium be for a toilet that operates as a > stoolie? 10X? 20X? Don't hold your breath waiting fo

Re: Big Brother the toilet troll

2001-07-12 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Um, what would the price premium be for a toilet that operates as a >stoolie? 10X? 20X? Don't hold your breath waiting for it to become a >standard. The hell of it is, this provides a useful function. The only thing that makes it invasive is that

Appeals court sets guidelines for penetrating anonymity online

2001-07-12 Thread Jim Choate
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Re: Most of a nation on probation (GPS convicts)

2001-07-12 Thread A. Melon
Bear saith: > >Right. Between all the "offender databases" and "surveillance >for your (cough) protection" and so on, anyone who's got a >record winds up so completely frozen out of normal society that >it becomes impossible for them to get by without continuing as >a part of criminal society

Proliferation of Surveillance Devices Threatens Privacy

2001-07-12 Thread Matthew Gaylor
Proliferation of Surveillance Devices Threatens Privacy Joint Statement of House Majority Leader Dick Armey, R-TX, And The American Civil Liberties Union FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Wednesday, July 11, 2001 WASHINGTON -- Over the past several days, a troubling expansion in the way technology is bein

Re: General Ashcroft make his move

2001-07-12 Thread Matthew Gaylor
[Note from Matthew Gaylor: Richard Stevens is author of the recent book "Dial 911 and Die" published by the Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership. http://www.jpfo.org ] Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 16:00:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Matt -- we must pro

Re: Meatspace anonymity manual

2001-07-12 Thread Jim Choate
So, the Seattle crowd was better armed than the Swedish crowd? It makes a nice theory, when do you present your argument behind it? On Wed, 11 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In Sweden, Gothenburg, police fired into a crowd. Arguably they had just > cause. > > But US police, facing simi

DCSB: David Birch; European Wireless E-Commerce (fwd)

2001-07-12 Thread Jim Choate
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Re: Most of a nation on probation (GPS convicts)

2001-07-12 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, A. Melon wrote: > Which brings this to mind again. This and the Where to go > thread. So where and what are the disenfranchised to go and do? [Long sorry tale deleted] Start your own company doing some sort of consulting/IT/technical support for small to medium sized

Re: General Ashcroft make his move

2001-07-12 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Matthew Gaylor wrote: > As you know, Ashcroft also said in that footnote in > his letter that the Constitution "does not prohibit > Congress from enacting laws restricting firearms > ownership for compelling state interests, such as > prohibiting firearms ownership by convic

Re: General Ashcroft make his move

2001-07-12 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Gee, how pure and simple. Well see... > What is your position on the First Amendment and: > > o "obscenity" What is 'obscene'? > o child pornography What is 'pornography'? As to the 'child' part of that, any interaction with a minor i

Re: CDR: The Pulp Theorem (Re: Digital Cash)

2001-07-12 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Morlock Elloi wrote: > b) The competition (government) will pulp the pulpable mint. Not if they can't find it. > So, n-way blind e-cash will never happen. It may be a nice thing to bullshit > about and to do PhD thesis and patents on and thus attract chicks, but it will >

Re: General Ashcroft make his move

2001-07-12 Thread George
Jimminy Critic wrote: # #Where is that boundary condition in the amendment? Saying "felons #may not own firearms" is certainly an infringment. Rights don't #come from the state after all (see 1st two para's of the DoI). # #Amendment II # #A well regulated Militia, being neces

Re: General Ashcroft make his move

2001-07-12 Thread George
Jimminy Critic wrote: # #Now a couple of questions for you... Yabut you gave cryptic replies, like answering a question with a question. #Where in the Constitution does it say the fed's are supposed #to regulate pornography or sex? Interstate commerce? #Where in the Constituti

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2001-07-12 Thread Jim Choate
All that discipline and training didn't help these blokes... http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/07/12/nireland.portadown/index.html -- -- Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God s

The Pulp Theorem (Re: Digital Cash)

2001-07-12 Thread Morlock Elloi
> Probably people would be willing to accept other issuers currencies even if > they don't know the issuer so long as they had the reputation rating for the > currency / issuer. > > But anonymous reptuations alone aren't any use as a rational issuer would > refuse to redeem if the action didn't a

Re: General Ashcroft make his move

2001-07-12 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Jimminy Critic wrote: > # > #Now a couple of questions for you... > > Yabut you gave cryptic replies, like > answering a question with a question. Some answers are question, even if one doesn't recognize, like, or want to accept it. > #W

Re: The Pulp Theorem (Re: Digital Cash)

2001-07-12 Thread Adam Back
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 03:41:57PM -0700, Morlock Elloi wrote: > > Probably people would be willing to accept other issuers currencies even if > > they don't know the issuer so long as they had the reputation rating for the > > currency / issuer. > > > > But anonymous reptuations alone aren't any

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Re: The Pulp Theorem (Re: Digital Cash)

2001-07-12 Thread georgemw
On 12 Jul 2001, at 15:41, Morlock Elloi wrote: > The basic point here is that: > > a) most "public" (including me and the few that I talked with) will not "trust" > money that is pure math, without actual *people* (who can be pulped if > something goes wrong) behind it. You say that now, but

Re: The Pulp Theorem (Re: Digital Cash)

2001-07-12 Thread Morlock Elloi
> Then we have an issuer of one use (and hence unlinkable) credentials > representing the reputation of the mint. So these are reputation credential > issuers. My thought was that there would similarly be reputation credential > issuers -- (potentially) everyone a reputation credential issuer.

RE: Most of a nation on probation? (GPS convicts)

2001-07-12 Thread Aimee Farr
Hey Lyn, I know, I know actually, I'm a baby privacy, surveillance law/policy and investigative law lawyer. I'm still in my first few years of practice, so I haven't advertised an area yet. (Choosing a practice area is a gut-wrenching decision, nailing yourself to it is even more difficult.)

RE: Most of a nation on probation? (GPS convicts)

2001-07-12 Thread Aimee Farr
Whoops. :)

Re: Re: General Ashcroft make his move

2001-07-12 Thread Brent
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Re: The Pulp Theorem (Re: Digital Cash)

2001-07-12 Thread Morlock Elloi
> You say that now, but what if the day comes when digital > currency schemes have been in successful operation for years, > and there are goods or services you desire that can be had far > cheaper (or only) if you use digital currency? Hmmm ... this sounds like a dot-com business plan :-)) >

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Re: Most of a nation on probation (GPS convicts)

2001-07-12 Thread Alfred Qeada
At 11:30 AM 7/12/01 -0700, A. Melon wrote: >Bear saith: >> >>It's the twenty-first century. Nobody cares if you go straight >>anymore > > Which brings this to mind again. This and the Where to go >thread. So where and what are the disenfranchised to go and do? >I'm a middle aged IT profes

Re: General Ashcroft makes his move

2001-07-12 Thread A. Melon
Those 3 things you mentioned violate the First on at least two counts, free speech and press, and also the "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" part --- the obscenity and kid porn stuff is pure Judeo-Christian bigo

RE: Most of a nation on probation? (GPS convicts)

2001-07-12 Thread David Honig
At 07:34 PM 7/12/01 -0500, Aimee Farr wrote: >Hey Lyn, > >I know, I know actually, I'm a baby privacy, surveillance law/policy and >investigative law lawyer. My kid is 21 months old. Would you still take him on as a baby privacy client? He's getting concerned about the number of baby pict

Re: General Ashcroft make his move

2001-07-12 Thread David Honig
At 06:09 PM 7/12/01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >What is your position on the First Amendment and: > >o "obscenity" > >o child pornography > >o generated non-child child pornography And synthetic images depicting *cloned* children...

Re: General Ashcroft makes his move

2001-07-12 Thread Jim Choate
Another observation about our 'implimentation' of the Constitution... Since we live in a democracy based on 'consent' (1st 2 para's DoI) and the concept of 'life, liberty, pursuit of happiness' coupled with 'shall not interfere with others expression' as axiomatic concepts of American democracy

RE: Most of a nation on probation? (GPS convicts)

2001-07-12 Thread Aimee Farr
*laughter* You're a 'baby lawyer' for about 10-15 years. It's a permanent "state of being" if you are the offspring of a lawyer. :) ~Aimee David wrote: > > My kid is 21 months old. Would you still take him on as a baby privacy > client? He's getting concerned about the number of baby pictures

Re: General Ashcroft makes his move (typo)

2001-07-12 Thread Jim Choate
Sorry... On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Jim Choate wrote: > What we have is a system that is focused on ways around the Constitution > based on 'good of society' concepts. The base problem with them is the a > priori assumption that the Constitution doesn't work and needs to be > worked around in the fir

Fundamental Theorems of Cliology (A Candidate List)

2001-07-12 Thread Jim Choate
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Re: Most of a nation on probation (GPS convicts)

2001-07-12 Thread Anonymous Coredump
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Alfred Qeada wrote: > Please list the companies. > > What state are you in? In some states the evil weed is more evil than > others. Thank you. We will now begin contacting these companys and asking whom they have turned down for due to drug related convictions. We hope t

Re: General Ashcroft make his move

2001-07-12 Thread Declan McCullagh
Matt, Thanks for posting this. I'm not sure why this should be a surprise. Groups that care about currying favor with Congress and the administration have a strong incentive to distort the truth to constitutents in hopes of persuading them that awful compromises are not. To use examples from the