Just a minor correction to the below posting: cell phone locations are NOT
calculated using GPS. They're triangulated via the three nearest cell sites
reading the cell phone signal. Accuracy is much lower than with GPS, but
good enough for cops to, say, find a stranded motorist on a highway. I
> >Bet on it? We don't have to do that -- look who he picked.
> Asscroft,
> > the boob who got beat by a dead man. Check out his
> ultra-fascist voting
> > record. Gag. Barf.
>
> Yes, but I bet he will burn very few children to death in a
> church during his first year.
No, instead he'l
Tim May wrote:
>
> I'm now 49, and "car" has been much more common in these United
> States than "automobile" has been, in my lifetime.
>
> Further, I often hear Britishisms which are far longer and more
> labored than the American equivalents. For example:
>
> "articulated lorry" vs. "semi"
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 12:59:26AM -0500, Ray Dillinger wrote:
| Of course, anonymity is relative; these phones have built-in GPS chips
| for 911 calls, and these are activated from the central office, not by
| a 911-sensing circuit in the handset. IOW, it is not impossible for
| someone with
Jim seems to have a real hard time with this concept.
Last week, I privately mailed him a polite letter on
just this issue over a post he sent telling us to look
at slashdot. He responded with obscenities, ordering
me to not send him any more private mail.
I took issue with the tone of his lette
On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Phillip Zakas wrote:
>
>Just a minor correction to the below posting: cell phone locations are NOT
>calculated using GPS. They're triangulated via the three nearest cell sites
>reading the cell phone signal. Accuracy is much lower than with GPS, but
>good enough for cops t
Hi,
I don't believe cell phones can be queried while they're off. The phone has
to xmit a pulse (to hear a pulse, crank up your PC speakers, turn on your
cell phone and place it within 3 inces of a speaker...you'll hear the
speakers produce static at a regular interval [about every 30 seconds or
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From: Jim Choate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Multiple recipients of list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, January 08, 2001 10:17 AM
Subject: CPS-2 Broken
>
>http://slashdot.org
Christ, Choate! Is it SO bloody hard to do a proper link?
http://slashd
At 8:17 AM -0500 1/8/01, Ken Brown wrote:
>
>Anyway - I heard Americans on the TV last week talking about "railway"
>instead of "railroad". And "station" instead of "depot" (though Grand
>Central Station is I suppose quite old, so you must have had that one
>for a while)
The most interesting Brit
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 03:10:55AM -0500, Phillip Zakas wrote:
>
> Just a minor correction to the below posting: cell phone locations are NOT
> calculated using GPS. They're triangulated via the three nearest cell sites
> reading the cell phone signal. Accuracy is much lower than with GPS, bu
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 10:40:37AM -0500, Adam Shostack wrote:
> The E911 requirements in the US include a requirement for covert
> "authorized" querying of the phone's location. Doubtless, this
> message will be strongly authenticated by a police-only PKI, and your
> phone will log it for later
At 12:59 AM -0500 1/8/01, Ray Dillinger wrote:
>On the larger purchases, the costs drop down to the forty-cents-a-minute
>range. Totally worth it if you really *need* anonymity on the phone.
>
>Of course, anonymity is relative; these phones have built-in GPS chips
>for 911 calls, and these are a
This pretty much kiboshes the idea that they might be continuously
broadcasting; I'm more concerned about the idea that there may be
some signal they're passively listening for, to which they will
*respond* with a pulse signalling their location.
Bear
On Mon, 8 Jan
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 11:11:03AM -0500, Ray Dillinger wrote:
| Does anyone know any particulars about whether these phones can be
| queried for their locations while not in use?
Define use.
If your phone is on, it can be queried for location. I strongly
recommend reading the fine specificati
Thanks for pointing out the article -- love learning new things. Didn't
realize companies were moving so quickly to GPS. Not sure how well it would
work in urban areas or buildings (hence I guess the two mode system of
triangulation and GPS in one).
phillip
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[Apologies for continuing this odd thread but ...]
On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Tim May wrote:
> >Anyway - I heard Americans on the TV last week talking about "railway"
> >instead of "railroad". And "station" instead of "depot" (though Grand
> >Central Station is I suppose quite old, so you must have had
At 08:17 AM 1/8/01 -0500, Ken Brown wrote:
>and there are very few opportunities for real misunderstanding. We know
The meaning of 'billion' differs by three orders of magnitude
across the pond. That's plenty of room for confusion :-)
>>and there are very few opportunities for real misunderstanding.
So Ken if you read that Blair was near Thatcher's house and knocked
her up, Yanks would think something very different from Brits.
>>>and there are very few opportunities for real misunderstanding.
>
>So Ken if you read that Blair was near Thatcher's house and knocked
>her up, Yanks would think something very different from Brits.
>
That's where technology can help : catch it on video.
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 02:14:43PM -0500, Ray Dillinger wrote:
>
> This pretty much kiboshes the idea that they might be continuously
> broadcasting; I'm more concerned about the idea that there may be
> some signal they're passively listening for, to which they will
> *respond* with a pulse s
On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, David Honig wrote:
>At 08:17 AM 1/8/01 -0500, Ken Brown wrote:
>>and there are very few opportunities for real misunderstanding. We know
>
>The meaning of 'billion' differs by three orders of magnitude
>across the pond. That's plenty of room for confusion :-)
>
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> [Apologies for continuing this odd thread but ...]
>
> On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Tim May wrote:
>
>>> Anyway - I heard Americans on the TV last week talking about "railway"
>>> instead of "railroad". And "station" instead of "depot" (thoug
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On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Tim May wrote:
>
>Ray, you seem knowledgeable in some areas. But your pontifications on
>California basements, cellphone GPS, etc., are very "Choatean" in
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