Re: McVeigh, Freedom Fighter or Kook?

2000-09-13 Thread Tim May
At 2:08 AM -0400 9/13/00, Ray Dillinger wrote: >Interesting question, actually... The difference between a >"random crazy" and a "freedom fighter" can be awfully dang >thin. I think that in order to qualify as a "freedom fighter" >there has to be a significant faction who support your actions >a

Re: MPAA thinks linking is illegal

2000-09-13 Thread Tom Vogt
Steven Furlong wrote: > > Now, the MPAA is trying to force me to remove a LINK to the code from > > my class page. This is enough to make me want to throw up. > > Can you simply remove the tag, but leave the address in as text? > The reader would still be able to see where to go, but it wouldn'

RE: And you thought Nazi agitprop was controversial?

2000-09-13 Thread Carol Braddock
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am saddened to learn of a child murder. I am saddened to learn that NAMBLA lost their website. I am saddened to learn that Jodi Hoffman still can't read very well. Carol Anne Cypherpunk Declan McCullagh wrote: > I am not a NAMBLA member, but I bel

MPAA honeypot (Re: MPAA thinks linking is illegal [cpunk]

2000-09-13 Thread Trei, Peter
[I'm seeing a *large* number of messages yesterday and today which apparently have sat on some spool for around 2 weeks. In some cases, responses to these messages got through rapidly, but the original did not.] > -- > David Honig[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] writes: > At 04:09 PM 8/30/00

RE: Is kerberos broken? cpunk

2000-09-13 Thread Trei, Peter
> -- > From: David Honig[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > At 12:00 PM 8/31/00 -0400, Joseph Ashwood wrote: > >No but I feel free to type a hundred or so, but that's beside the > >point. The claim made was that anything a human can remember, a > >computer can brute force, this was sim

censorship rears its head

2000-09-13 Thread A. Melon
Lieberman: Entertainment Must Police Itself or Else By Kalpana Srinivasan Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) - Sen. Joe Lieberman decried a "culture of carnage" surrounding Americas young people and told a Senate commit

Re: CDR: USA.net proxy: *** NOT! ****

2000-09-13 Thread sunder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Previously I whined that USA.net was changing the URLs > in received email to proxy through their server, meaning > they had logs of all URLs you visited when clicking on > hyperlinks while reading your personal email. > Here is the resulting URL in the new window

Re: And you thought Nazi agitprop was controversial?

2000-09-13 Thread Steven Furlong
Tim May wrote: > We as a culture have swung far away from "sticks and stones may break > my bones but names will never hurt me" toward a culture of lawsuits. > And the lawyer lobby supports and embraces this culture, getting laws > passed making it easier every day to suppress speech. For my firs

Re: censorship rears its head

2000-09-13 Thread Tim May
At 12:38 PM -0400 9/13/00, A. Melon wrote: >Lieberman: Entertainment Must > Police Itself or Else > By Kalpana Srinivasan > Associated Press Writer > > WASHINGTON (AP) - Sen. Joe Lieberman decried a > "culture of carnage" surrounding Amer

Re: And you thought Nazi agitprop was controversial?

2000-09-13 Thread Tim May
At 1:19 PM -0400 9/13/00, Steven Furlong wrote: >Tim May wrote: >> We as a culture have swung far away from "sticks and stones may break >> my bones but names will never hurt me" toward a culture of lawsuits. >> And the lawyer lobby supports and embraces this culture, getting laws >> passed ma

Re: And you thought Nazi agitprop was controversial?

2000-09-13 Thread Steven Furlong
Tim May wrote: > Why in the name of all that is good and interesting would you train > to become a _lawyer_? I make my living as a programmer, and plan to continue to do so. I want a law degree to help defend techies and free software projects from big-bucks corps and govts who feel threatened o

domestic bioterrorism incident in FLA school

2000-09-13 Thread A. Melon
Middle school student arrested in poisoning Wednesday, 13 September 2000 0:18 (ET) Middle school student arrested in poisoning Middle school student arrested in poisoning JACKSONVILLE, Fla., Sept. 12 (UPI) -- A 15-year-old Jacksonville, Fla., boy was arrested Tuesday for allegedly putt

Re: VISA to smartcard the US

2000-09-13 Thread Kerry L. Bonin
Take a look at Dallas Semiconductor's Crypto iButton family. FIPS level 2 and 3 certified DSA/SHA services with a JVM in a large watch battery form factor, under $50 for FOB and interface. (Disclaimer - I don't work there, I've just used their products for many years now and have designed them i

Re: domestic bioterrorism incident in FLA school

2000-09-13 Thread William H. Geiger III
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/13/00 at 12:59 PM, "A. Melon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Subject: domestic bioterrorism incident in FLA school >Middle school student arrested in > poisoning Exactly how do you get "domestic bioterrorism" from a rather simplistic poisoning? -- ---

Re: domestic bioterrorism incident in FLA school

2000-09-13 Thread Alan Olsen
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, William H. Geiger III wrote: > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/13/00 >at 12:59 PM, "A. Melon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > >Subject: domestic bioterrorism incident in FLA school > > >Middle school student arrested in > > poisoning > > Exactly how do you get "domestic b

Re: Lee Free - Judge Apologizes For Government's Conduct

2000-09-13 Thread Harmon Seaver
Eric Cordian wrote: > > ''I sincerely apologize to you, Dr. Lee, for the unfair manner in which > you were held in custody by the executive branch,'' Parker said. > > Parker said the Departments of Justice and Energy ''have embarrassed our > entire nation and each of us who is a citizen of it.''

Re: Lee Free - Judge Apologizes For Government's Conduct

2000-09-13 Thread Tim May
At 5:45 PM -0400 9/13/00, Harmon Seaver wrote: >Eric Cordian wrote: > >> >> ''I sincerely apologize to you, Dr. Lee, for the unfair manner in which >> you were held in custody by the executive branch,'' Parker said. >> >> Parker said the Departments of Justice and Energy ''have embarrassed our

Re: Lee Free - Judge Apologizes For Government's Conduct

2000-09-13 Thread Steven Furlong
Tim May wrote: ... > Lee spent 9 months in solitary confinement and lost significant > salary and retirement benefits. > > This makes it a moral requirement that former Defense Secretary > William Perry face a similar period of confinement and similar loss > of benefits. Perry has acknowledged do

Re: Lee Free - Judge Apologizes For Government's Conduct

2000-09-13 Thread Tim May
At 6:17 PM -0400 9/13/00, Steven Furlong wrote: >Tim May wrote: >... >> Lee spent 9 months in solitary confinement and lost significant >> salary and retirement benefits. >> >> This makes it a moral requirement that former Defense Secretary >> William Perry face a similar period of confinement

Re: Lee Free - Judge Apologizes For Government's Conduct

2000-09-13 Thread Harmon Seaver
Tim May wrote: > > As to why the deal included this single remaining count, the news > stories are filled with much verbosity on this. Stuff about fig > leaves, sending messages to other secret holders, etc. > > You claim to be a librarian...look it up. > The question was rhetorical, Tim

Re: Lee Free - Judge Apologizes For Government's Conduct

2000-09-13 Thread Tim May
At 6:49 PM -0400 9/13/00, Harmon Seaver wrote: >Tim May wrote: > >> >> As to why the deal included this single remaining count, the news >> stories are filled with much verbosity on this. Stuff about fig >> leaves, sending messages to other secret holders, etc. >> >> You claim to be a libraria

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Re: domestic bioterrorism incident in FLA school

2000-09-13 Thread David Honig
At 05:38 PM 9/13/00 -0400, William H. Geiger III wrote: >In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/13/00 > at 12:59 PM, "A. Melon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >>Subject: domestic bioterrorism incident in FLA school > >>Middle school student arrested in >> poisoning > >Exactly how do you get "domestic biote

Re: And you thought Nazi agitprop was controversial?

2000-09-13 Thread Ulf Möller
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 01:19:38PM -0400, Steven Furlong wrote: > and nonsensical lawsuits. In the other, on page 3 yet, the authors > argue that if someone is injured such that he can no longer work, > _someone_ should be held financially liable because society has lost > the first person's wage

Re: Internet Drivers License

2000-09-13 Thread Tom Vogt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > That sounds like censorship to me. > Way to restrictive, kinda like COPPA aka Children Loose > their Right to Free Speech Online (CLRFSO), a voilation of the > first ammendment and of the Universal Declaration of Human > Rights. yeah, but let's give the guy a

Re: And you thought Nazi agitprop was controversial?

2000-09-13 Thread David Honig
At 05:14 PM 9/13/00 -0400, Tim May wrote: >At 4:57 PM -0400 9/13/00, Omri Schwarz wrote: >> >>Actually, she got shot at and roughed up >>by AN members. (AN has a habit of disavowing relations >>with members once they get in trouble with The Elders of Zion.) > >This woman and her daughter just "hap

Re: Abortion Assasination Politics likely going to Supremes

2000-09-13 Thread David Honig
At 04:19 PM 9/12/00 -0400, Marcel Popescu wrote: >More stuff for Freenet, it seems. I'm really curious how "they" would >consider handling such documents instead MP3s - better or worse? > Heh. How about someone reading names & addresses of judges/physicians/whatever in an MP3, and circulating th