RE: [IP] No expectation of privacy in public? In a pig's eye! (fwd from dave@farber.net)

2005-01-16 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 10:07 AM 1/14/05 -0500, Trei, Peter wrote: >It would take some chutzpa, but tacking onto a cops >car would send a message Too easy. 5 points for adding to cop's personal car 10 points for adding to cop's spouse's personal car 20 points for adding to cop's mistress' personal car Not sure ab

RE: [IP] No expectation of privacy in public? In a pig's eye! (fwd from dave@farber.net)

2005-01-14 Thread Trei, Peter
Bill Stewart wrote: > At 12:30 PM 1/12/2005, Roy M. Silvernail wrote: > >Just out of curiosity, if the man doesn't need a warrent > >to place a surveilance device, shouldn't it be within your rights > >to tamper with, disable or remove such a device if you discover one? > > Do you mean that if yo

Re: [IP] No expectation of privacy in public? In a pig's eye! (fwd from dave@farber.net)

2005-01-14 Thread Bill Stewart
At 12:30 PM 1/12/2005, Roy M. Silvernail wrote: Just out of curiosity, if the man doesn't need a warrent to place a surveilance device, shouldn't it be within your rights to tamper with, disable or remove such a device if you discover one? Do you mean that if you discover an unsolicited gift of con

expectation of privacy

2005-01-12 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 09:01 PM 1/12/05 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: > >It's time to blow the lid off this "no expectation of privacy in >public places" argument that judges and law enforcement now spout out >like demented parrots in so many situations. A court refused to hear the case

Re: [IP] No expectation of privacy in public? In a pig's eye! (fwd from dave@farber.net)

2005-01-12 Thread Roy M. Silvernail
Re: the embedded item: http://timesunion.com/AspStories/storyprint.asp?StoryID=322152 Ruling gives cops leeway with GPS Decision allows use of vehicle tracking device without a warrant By BRENDAN LYONS, Staff writer First published: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 In a decision that could dramatically af

[IP] No expectation of privacy in public? In a pig's eye! (fwd from dave@farber.net)

2005-01-12 Thread Eugen Leitl
- Forwarded message from David Farber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: David Farber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:46:47 -0500 To: Ip Subject: [IP] No expectation of privacy in public? In a pig's eye! User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 Reply-To:

Re: RE: Expectation of privacy in public?

2001-09-25 Thread jamesd
-- On 24 Sep 2001, at 15:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It's not a violation of US law for US agents to spy on > people in Australia, but it's almost certainly a violation > of Australian law. Similarly, it's probably not a > violation of Australian law for Australian agents to > eavsdrop

RE: Expectation of privacy in public?

2001-09-24 Thread Aimee Farr
e Katz test is two-pronged: (1) the person challenging must exhibit an expectation of privacy [subjective] and (2) that person must also be justified in that expectation [objective]. If both prongs are not met, the conversation is not protected under the constitution against warrantless surveillance. S

Re: RE: Expectation of privacy in public?

2001-09-24 Thread georgemw
On 24 Sep 2001, at 17:49, Robert wrote: > > Cal. Penal Code ' 631, 632 (Deering 1999): It is a crime > > in California to intercept or eavesdrop upon any > > confidential communication, including a telephone call or > > wire communication, without the consent of all parties. > > > > It is

RE: Expectation of privacy in public?

2001-09-24 Thread Trei, Peter
> Anonymous[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > For the lawyers and lawyer larvae out there... > > In an article in the San Francisco Bay Guardian this week, there is an > article about MUNI's policy of making audio recordings of passengers. > > > Nathan Ballard of the City Attorney's Office told t

Re: Expectation of privacy in public?

2001-09-24 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 07:16:03AM +0200, Anonymous ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > For the lawyers and lawyer larvae out there... > > In an article in the San Francisco Bay Guardian this week, there is an > article about MUNI's policy of making audio recordings of passengers. > > > Nathan Ballard o

Expectation of privacy in public?

2001-09-23 Thread Anonymous
For the lawyers and lawyer larvae out there... In an article in the San Francisco Bay Guardian this week, there is an article about MUNI's policy of making audio recordings of passengers. Nathan Ballard of the City Attorney's Office told the Bay Guardian that they were well aware of the policy