On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Joseph Ashwood wrote:
>> You have a right to do whatever you want, UNTIL it impacts another. Then
>> you stop, or they defend themselves.
>
>Actually that's not true. Take for example the nearly nationwide ban on
>committing suicide.
Which simply goes on to demonstrate the g
Extract...>>attempted suicide punishable by death. There are other examples
of similar, but not as ludicrous, legal situations where the only person
being impacted is the person acting, but it's still illegal. Joe
If the point is to minimize coercion and maximize freedom to play loud
music an
he states, cities, and individuals.
And therefore your message below is completely wrong. Congratulations,
you've just proven yourself wrong:
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:49:49 -0600 (CST)
From: Jim Choate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Sunder wrote:
> Ok, then I propose to surround your property from any vantage point on
> public land, and setup gigantic speakers from which I would recite very
> loud speeches in your direction at 3:00am.
No public land in the area that isn't managed by the city, you'll nee
At 11:42 AM 12/3/01 -0500, Sunder wrote:
>Ok, then I propose to surround your property from any vantage point on
>public land, and setup gigantic speakers from which I would recite very
>loud speeches in your direction at 3:00am.
Why not do some high-power microwave testing in his direction?
Then that would involve the FCC which wouldn't be pure speech. Besides,
roasted Choate won't be so appetizing. I find it more fun tweaking him on
his errors. :)
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Ok, then I propose to surround your property from any vantage point on
public land, and setup gigantic speakers from which I would recite very
loud speeches in your direction at 3:00am.
As I would be on public land and excercising my freedom of speech, you
couldn't do anything as that would be ce
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Sunder wrote:
> But by preventing me from trespassing you're restricting my freedom of
> speech! According to you, that's illegal.
Not at all. You are still free to speak, just not on my property.
You have a right to engage in any behaviour until it infringes another.
You
But by preventing me from trespassing you're restricting my freedom of
speech! According to you, that's illegal.
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No, that's trespass.
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Sunder wrote:
> So by your terms, I should have the right to enter your house at 3:00am
> when you're asleep and make long loud ranting speeches using a bullhorn
> shoved in your ear?
>
> Ok, I'll be over tomorrow night, then.
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On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Jim Choate wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, David Honig wrote:
>
> > > Speech May Not Be Free, but It's Ref
On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, David Honig wrote:
> > Speech May Not Be Free, but It's Refundable
>
> Its not censorship if its not the government.
Bullshit. Any time ANY(!!!) party interferes with your free expression
> Speech May Not Be Free, but It's Refundable
Its not censorship if its not the government.
A gun show is a private affair; they can exclude
any vendor or seller, morally. Legally they fnord can't
exclude for certain criteria, eg cutaneous albedo.
Cheers
This is hardly equitable to an abandonment of free speech, nobody told him
he couldn't sell his book in general, only at their gun show.
Nothing wrong with that, one has a right until it effects another (and the
other is the one who decides). See democracy does work.
On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 [EMAIL
>From Drudge:
Gun show denies booth for man selling anthrax recipes
Wed Nov 28 2001 10:20:07 ET
A Phoenix gun show is refusing space to a Nebraska man who sells a
book that includes directions for making anthrax! Timothy Tobiason
attended gun shows in Salt Lake City where he hawked 'Advanced
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