Re: CDR: Re: Soldiers in airports screening-out political dissidents

2001-11-04 Thread measl
On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Reese wrote: > Whatever Jim. Have it your way, a century of precedent means nothing. You may want to acquire (and possibly even *read*), "Government By Judiciary". -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human be

Re: CDR: Re: Soldiers in airports screening-out political dissidents

2001-11-04 Thread Jim Choate
On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Reese wrote: > You've yet to show how the airport departure lounge and check-in counter > is the proper venue to address this. It isn't. ??? Why 'where' even relevant? If it doesn't apply all day, every day, every place then it applies no place at no time. As to a century

Re: Soldiers in airports screening-out political dissidents

2001-11-04 Thread Jim Choate
On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Reese wrote: > Whatever Jim. Have it your way, a century of precedent means nothing. I wish The point that the government is so far outside the Constitution and any concept of reasonable 'American democracy' should be obvious, it is usually the reason folks come here t

Re: CDR: Re: Soldiers in airports screening-out political dissidents

2001-11-04 Thread Jim Choate
On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Reese wrote: > States are not prohibited from having a militia, the National Guard is an > organized militia, until such time they are federalized, at which point > they fall under the Army's Chain of Command. No, the can't except in cases of invasion. > Why do you think al

Re: CDR: Re: Soldiers in airports screening-out political dissidents

2001-11-04 Thread Jim Choate
On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Reese wrote: > Working for the governor of their respective states, unless you're saying > they've been called up by the Army and federalized. There is a long list States are prohibited from having troops. Any(!) troops in the US (be they military, guard, or militia) ARE r

Re: Soldiers in airports screening-out political dissidents

2001-11-04 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 08:45:05AM -1000, Reese wrote: > of Nat.Guard troops for civil things. So long as they do not bring in > regular active duty military, in violation of the posse comitatus act. This shows a common but not entirely correct view of the PCA. You may wish to read it for yourse

Re: CDR: Re: Soldiers in airports screening-out political dissidents

2001-11-04 Thread measl
On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Reese wrote: > At the moment, it's National Guard, there is a long precedent for use > of Nat.Guard troops for civil things. So long as they do not bring in > regular active duty military, in violation of the posse comitatus act. And it is pure judicial fiat. Guardsmen on

Re: Soldiers in airports screening-out political dissidents

2001-11-04 Thread Reese
At 09:36 AM 11/4/01 -0800, Tim May wrote: >Actually, a person or business can "refuse to serve" on nearly any basis >except race or gender or a few other politically-correct things. "Tim's >Surf Shop" can choose not to wax the board of Reese, for whatever reason >it chooses. That's right, whe

Soldiers in airports screening-out political dissidents

2001-11-04 Thread Tim May
On Sunday, November 4, 2001, at 03:10 AM, Raymond D. Mereniuk wrote: > On 4 Nov 2001, at 0:49, Reese wrote: > >> What is precedent and case history of the "We reserve the right..." >> signs in public establishments, restaurants for example? How about >> the "no shirts, no shoes, no service" sign