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Visions of mega, ultra, unbelievable high rise towers are a stock
off the shelf stuff for architects and tall building engineers. Clients
and designers with delusions of grandeur, or need for PR to help
fend off debtors and unwanted bastards, dream up these fantasies
all the time. A crony and I wo
At 07:28 PM 09/15/2001 -0700, Eric Cordian wrote:
> > I agree with this. The Twin Towers should be built bigger than before
> > (twice as big if it's feasible). I know some people would be scared
> > to have office space in there, but that's fine, because people who are
> > not scared will take
The movement to rebuild the World Trade Center towers is gaining momentum,
and American capitalism is stepping up to the plate. The latest corporate
giant to sign on as a sponsor is Target Stores. Their only requirement
is that their corporate logo be painted high on each tower. The Target
logo
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On 16 Sep 2001, at 12:16, John Young wrote:
> Yes, Sandy, how do you do that? Sincerely, I'm not being a
> wiseass. Some building types have disappeared over time due
> to understanding that they don't work any more. Glorious
> buildings that once were once seen as absolutely the best
> eve
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On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
> > As were buildings above 5 stories in ancient Rome.
> > Technology moves on. The question is not, "Can 250-story
> > buildings be made safe?" The only question is "How can
> > they be made safe?"
Eugene Leitl
> The question is: why should we b
On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 06:59:44PM -0700, Eric Cordian wrote:
> Homework Exercise: Could someone list all the "executive orders" signed
> by various Presidents that are now in effect because Bush declared a
> "National Emergency", along with what unconstitutional power they confer
> and to whom?
Tim wrote:
> I'm not saying parachutes will ever be banned. For one thing, no way to.
Recall that gas mask possession, sale, and transportation was criminalized
in the city of Seattle during the "state of emergency" declared for the
WTO festivities.
This was during the time you couldn't open th
At 01:46 PM 9/15/01 -0700, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
>I'd love to see the WTC replaced with a building over twice as tall as the
>twin towers, the irrefutable tallest building in the world.
Would you issue parachutes to folks on the upper floors?
> In any case, let the insurers and builders do it if they want. But
> they'd better not use any money taken by force from others. And they'd
"Money taken by force from others" is flowing very freely these days.
I'm sure taxpayer money will be used to rebuild the WTC. Even worse,
I'm sure bill
Sandy Sandfort wrote:
> > Antheaps are for ants.
>
> Ants do not build cloud piercing towers of adamantine steel and glass, the
> mind of man does. YMMV.
Actually, they do. At least in ant terms they do. Some ants build
extremely high (relative to their size) towers, others build in tre
Sandy, not to disagree with you, but
>Ants do not build cloud piercing towers of adamantine steel and glass, the
>mind of man does. YMMV.
this describes stolen jumbo-sized Stingers, dual-use at its best.
No joke, the mind of man is a hyde and jekyl, at home and overseas.
What I like about thi
t.
> * I think the notion of a "symbol" is silly.
Reasonable minds may differ.
> * Using any coerced funding (taxes, bailouts, subsidies) to rebuld a
> gaudy and dangerous bauble, one that employees don't even feel
> comfortable working in, is not rational.
Who has suggest
John Young wrote:
> Yes, Sandy, how do you do that? Sincerely,
> I'm not being a wiseass... High rise
> engineers now admittedly design to the limits
> of failure under economic pressure and
> aesthetic ambition.
Granted, but they will be built. My only hope is that safety is a high
priority an
e, aesthetics, symbolism, and libertarian issues of whether
coerced-funding approaches should be used (of course not...).
The Getty Center. This is the marble-and-steel art museum built by the
Getty Foundation on a hill overlooking L.A.
I've been meaning to talk about this for the last several o
Yes, Sandy, how do you do that? Sincerely, I'm not being
a wiseass. Some building types have disappeared over
time due to understanding that they don't work any more.
Glorious buildings that once were once seen as absolutely the
best ever. Forts, for example. Gothic cathedrals that failed
after e
struction would likely have taken down a dozen other
buildings. Any construction of a building tall enough to knock over
other buildings needs insurance for this.
* I think the notion of a "symbol" is silly. John Young called it
"vainglory." I have called it Heights of Hubr
On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
> As were buildings above 5 stories in ancient Rome. Technology moves
> on. The question is not, "Can 250-story buildings be made safe?" The
> only question is "How can they be made safe?"
The question is: why should we bother? Tall buildings have int
John Young wrote:
> High rises taller than about about 70
> stories for office buildings and 50
> stories for housing are extremely
> dangerous.
As were buildings above 5 stories in ancient Rome. Technology moves on.
The question is not, "Can 250-story buildings be made safe?" The only
questio
Pst, C'mere
Let's build a BIIIG terrorist icon on the eve of a possibly long
engagement, and put lots of little people in it.
Don't present targets when civilian lives go in them.
And, you can't fight fires in those things.
~Aimee
On Saturday, September 15, 2001, at 07:28 PM, Eric Cordian wrote:
>> I agree with this. The Twin Towers should be built bigger than before
>> (twice as big if it's feasible). I know some people would be scared
>> to have office space in there, but that's fine, because people who are
>> not scar
> I agree with this. The Twin Towers should be built bigger than before
> (twice as big if it's feasible). I know some people would be scared
> to have office space in there, but that's fine, because people who are
> not scared will take space there, and everyone will know it. I would
> take a
> I'd love to see the WTC replaced with a building over twice as tall as the
> twin towers, the irrefutable tallest building in the world. Something like
> Trump's kilometer tower would be a great symbol of recovery and
> transcendence.
I agree with this. The Twin Towers
g over twice as tall as the
twin towers, the irrefutable tallest building in the world. Something like
Trump's kilometer tower would be a great symbol of recovery and
transcendence.
S a n d y
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