On 29 Sep 2005 09:57:54 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote:
One way to build a psuedo-pseudonymous mechanism to hang off of Tor
that would be easy for the Wikipedians to deal with
would be to have a server that lets you connect to it using Tor,
log in using some authentication protocol or other,
then hav
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> But now we're back to the question: how can Tor be improved to deal with
> this very serious and important problem? What are the steps that might
> be taken, however imperfect, to reduce the amount of abuse coming from
> Tor nodes?
That's trivial: charge Tor-originated users for editing. That 0
That's trivial: charge Tor-originated users for editing. That 0.0001% (all
three of them) that actually contributes to Wikipedia will be resourceful
enough to create untraceable payment accounts.
...and ensure that all future Tor-originated Wikipedia entries are about
anonymous payments and tra
One way to build a psuedo-pseudonymous mechanism to hang off of Tor
that would be easy for the Wikipedians to deal with
would be to have a server that lets you connect to it using Tor,
log in using some authentication protocol or other,
then have it generate different outgoing addresses based on
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Quoting Bill Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> One way to build a psuedo-pseudonymous mechanism to hang off of Tor
> that would be easy for the Wikipedians to deal with
> would be to have a server that lets you connect to it using Tor,
> log in using some authentication protocol or other,
> then have
At 05:37 PM 9/27/2005, lists wrote:
Tyler Durden wrote:
Sorry...I don't understand...why would psuedonymity services be provided
within Tor?
I find the concept of having both pseudonymous and anonymous traffic
through TOR quite interesting. In some cases, you really do wish to just
TOR it
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> > We are not looking for a perfect solution. Yes, Wikis will be
> > vandalized. We're prepared to deal with that, we do deal with that.
> > But what I am seeking is some efforts to
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> We are not looking for a perfect solution. Yes, Wikis will be
> vandalized. We're prepared to deal with that, we do deal with that.
> But what I am seeking is some efforts to think usefully about how to
> helpfully reconcile o
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At 8:37 PM -0400 9/27/05, lists wrote:
> Building a TOR nymspace would be much more
>interesting and distributed.
Since the first time I met Dingledine, he was talking pseudonymity,
bigtime. I was curious when he went to play with onion routers, but maybe
I'm not so surprised anymore...
Cheers,
R
Tyler Durden wrote:
Sorry...I don't understand...why would psuedonymity services be provided
within Tor?
I find the concept of having both pseudonymous and anonymous traffic
through TOR quite interesting. In some cases, you really do wish to just
separate yourself from your meatspace identity
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[yes, I know I'm preaching to the choir]
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> > A potential for cooperation is the proposal below for authenticated
> > access to Wikipedia through Tor. I will not speak to any particular
> > design here, but if Wikipedia has
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