Re: Suspending the Constitution

2002-12-20 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Petro wrote: > On Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 03:18:09PM -0800, Mike Rosing wrote: > > On Sat, 14 Dec 2002, Tim May wrote: > > > Lincoln's notion that the Constitution is suspendable during a war, or > > > other emergency conditions, was disgraceful. Nothing in the > > > Constitutio

Re: CDR: Re: Suspending the Constitution

2002-12-20 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Mike Rosing wrote: > On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Adam Shostack wrote: > > > The Volkh conspiracy blog had this Learned Hand quote recently: > > > > "I often wonder whether we do not rest our hopes too much upon > > constitutions, upon laws and upon courts. These are false > > hopes;

Re: Suspending the Constitution

2002-12-18 Thread Mike Rosing
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Adam Shostack wrote: > The Volkh conspiracy blog had this Learned Hand quote recently: > > "I often wonder whether we do not rest our hopes too much upon > constitutions, upon laws and upon courts. These are false > hopes; believe me, these are false hopes. Liberty lies in the

Re: Suspending the Constitution

2002-12-18 Thread Adam Shostack
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 03:17:21PM -0800, Petro wrote: | On Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 03:18:09PM -0800, Mike Rosing wrote: | > On Sat, 14 Dec 2002, Tim May wrote: | > > Lincoln's notion that the Constitution is suspendable during a war, or | > > other emergency conditions, was disgraceful. Nothing in th

Re: Suspending the Constitution

2002-12-18 Thread Petro
On Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 03:18:09PM -0800, Mike Rosing wrote: > On Sat, 14 Dec 2002, Tim May wrote: > > Lincoln's notion that the Constitution is suspendable during a war, or > > other emergency conditions, was disgraceful. Nothing in the > > Constitution says that it is suspended when a President d

Re: Suspending the Constitution

2002-12-16 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > At 03:49 PM 12/14/02 -0800, Tim May wrote: > >PLONK. > > Hey, maybe Mike was talking about Mr. Booth, not Mr. Lincoln. :-) Tim has given me some motivation to work on an old idea. We'll see if I get any time in the next year to make it happen.

Re: Suspending the Constitution

2002-12-16 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 03:49 PM 12/14/02 -0800, Tim May wrote: >On Saturday, December 14, 2002, at 03:18 PM, Mike Rosing wrote: > >> On Sat, 14 Dec 2002, Tim May wrote: >> >>> Lincoln's notion that the Constitution is suspendable during a war, or >>> other emergency conditions, was disgraceful. >> Power is what powe

Re: Suspending the Constitution

2002-12-14 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 7:45 PM -0500 on 12/14/02, Steve Furlong wrote: > Sic semper tyrannis. I prefer Lex vincula justitiae, myself... Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "The real object

Re: Suspending the Constitution

2002-12-14 Thread Steve Schear
Correction From my review "Great cinema, poor history," of the movie "Glory": "If not for the foolish chivalry of Confederate President Jefferson Davis, in not following up their rout of the Union Army at the war's first big battle of Bull Run (called First Manassas in The South) just outs

Re: Suspending the Constitution

2002-12-14 Thread Steve Schear
At 07:45 PM 12/14/2002 -0500, Steve Furlong wrote: On Saturday 14 December 2002 18:18, Mike Rosing wrote: > On Sat, 14 Dec 2002, Tim May wrote: > > Lincoln's notion that the Constitution is suspendable during a war, > > or other emergency conditions, was disgraceful. Nothing in the > > Constitutio

Re: Suspending the Constitution

2002-12-14 Thread Steve Furlong
On Saturday 14 December 2002 18:18, Mike Rosing wrote: > On Sat, 14 Dec 2002, Tim May wrote: > > Lincoln's notion that the Constitution is suspendable during a war, > > or other emergency conditions, was disgraceful. Nothing in the > > Constitution says that it is suspended when a President declare

Re: Suspending the Constitution

2001-09-17 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 09:33:32PM -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: > Bush has been somewhat milder than the more rabid Congresscritters, > but some of that's just the basic Bell Curve plus media behavior - > with 500+ of them, you'd expect the more extreme to sound > fairly extremist, and you'd expect