RE: "Space War"

2001-08-23 Thread Bill Stewart
Bamford's book "Body of Secrets" has a lot of good discussion on moon-bounce work by the NSA. As Phillip wrote, two of the main applications were passive eavesdropping on Soviet communucations (though satellites later did a *much* better job) and very non-directional communications to/from spy sh

Re: Space War

2001-08-08 Thread Public
John Young wrote: > Don't overlook what is reportedly happening on the back side of the > moon. The URL for an IF-mooncam was posted here a while ago. The > stream is encrypted but with weak crypto -- the crypto-processor is > 1968-9 vintage. The cam is part of a data package placed on the dark >

Re: "Space War"

2001-08-08 Thread David Honig
At 02:17 PM 8/6/01 -0700, John Young wrote: >Don't overlook what is reportedly happening on the back side of >the moon. The URL for an IF-mooncam was posted here a while >ago. The stream is encrypted but with weak crypto -- the >crypto-processor is 1968-9 vintage. The cam is part of a data >pack

RE: "Space War"

2001-08-06 Thread Phillip H. Zakas
> John Young Wrote: > Don't overlook what is reportedly happening on the back side of > the moon. The URL for an IF-mooncam was posted here a while > ago. The stream is encrypted but with weak crypto -- the > crypto-processor is 1968-9 vintage. The cam is part of a data > package placed on the dar

Re: "Space War"

2001-08-06 Thread John Young
Don't overlook what is reportedly happening on the back side of the moon. The URL for an IF-mooncam was posted here a while ago. The stream is encrypted but with weak crypto -- the crypto-processor is 1968-9 vintage. The cam is part of a data package placed on the dark side in a classified opera

Re: CDR: Re: "Space War"

2001-08-06 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Ray Dillinger wrote: > >Check the web. > > I did, actually. You checked the wrong thing; you should check the moon landing and Congress' budget for NASA...I sent a URL to the list earlier. IF (big if) the US ever does drop out of the treaty they will still be able to claim

Re: "Space War"

2001-08-06 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Jim Choate wrote: >On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Ray Dillinger wrote: > >> Second, it pretty much means the US is going to have to withdraw >> from the space treaty of 1965, which bans space weapons. This >> latter is actually more interesting to me, because that treaty >> also ba

Re: CDR: Re: "Space War"

2001-08-06 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Ray Dillinger wrote: > Second, it pretty much means the US is going to have to withdraw > from the space treaty of 1965, which bans space weapons. This > latter is actually more interesting to me, because that treaty > also bans national claims of sovereignty over off-ear