Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-15 Thread Steve Furlong
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 18:09, Petro wrote: > > Now, hunting black _helicopters_ is a different matter, you > > realize > > What is the recommened minimum caliber for taking one, and how > does one get it to the taxidermist? I don't have a copy of _Unintended Consequences_ handy, but

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-15 Thread Petro
On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 10:29:22PM -0800, Bill Stewart wrote: > At 02:25 PM 01/13/2003 -0800, James A. Donald wrote: > >The hunting post was obviously a joke, as the final line made > >clear. The real joke was that some readers would fail to see > >that the first line was a joke, would believe that

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-15 Thread Petro
On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 10:22:12AM -0600, Jim Choate wrote: > On Sat, 11 Jan 2003, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote: > > On Sat, 11 Jan 2003, Bill Stewart wrote: > > > Any time you post to a list of a bunch of people you don't know, > > > you might be posting to a list of a bunch of people you don't like. > >

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-15 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 14 Jan 2003 at 21:48, Tyler Durden wrote: > My thought was that James is some kind of Fed. I suspect > Chomsky is one guy they most don't want around these days. > His accusations on the Chomsky dis website were > technicalities and hair-splitting, even somantic. Liar: Chomsky claim

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-14 Thread Tyler Durden
Holy shit! I could done better than this! (ie, I THOUGHT this would be outrageous and amusing but it kinda sucked black prison dick.) -TD From: Sleeping Vayu - Vayu Anonymous Remailer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scar

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-14 Thread Tyler Durden
]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 11:13:32 -0600 (CST) On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Tyler Durden wrote: > For all I know, I've been posting on a list haunted by a bunch of > crypto-white supremists (crypto, as

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-14 Thread Bill Stewart
At 02:25 PM 01/13/2003 -0800, James A. Donald wrote: The hunting post was obviously a joke, as the final line made clear. The real joke was that some readers would fail to see that the first line was a joke, would believe that cypherpunks really do go hunting black people. Now, hunting black _he

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-13 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 12:30:48PM -0800, Todd Boyle wrote: (snip) > Just tell me why there's so many posts about guns, > killing, racism, liberty and all that crap, when all > we need is a decent electronic money system. > Just tell me why you're complaining about this on the cpunx list? Gu

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-13 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 13 Jan 2003 at 12:30, Todd Boyle wrote: > What *was* your point in redistributing the "nigger killing" > post from Cypherpunks, in the digital bearer settlement list? > Does that have something to do with digital cash, or enhance > your IBUC business somehow? Maybe, increasing traff

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-13 Thread Todd Boyle
>Don't let the door hit you on the way out... As usual, no intellectual response from the mental cadaver of a once-relevant writer :-) What *was* your point in redistributing the "nigger killing" post from Cypherpunks, in the digital bearer settlement list? Does that have something to do with

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-13 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 5:04 PM -0800 on 1/12/03, Todd Boyle wrote: > This is supposed > to be a "Digital Bearer Settlement List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>". > For that matter, is there any conceptual association between > killing people, and payments with digital currencies? > > What's your point > > I thought you had

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-12 Thread Todd Boyle
: U Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 13:30:17 -0800 Subject: Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary From: Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sunday, January 12, 2003, at 12:55 PM, Sleeping Vayu - Vayu Anonymous Remailer wrote: > At 09:33 PM 01/

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-12 Thread Tim May
On Sunday, January 12, 2003, at 12:55 PM, Sleeping Vayu - Vayu Anonymous Remailer wrote: At 09:33 PM 01/10/2003 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: For all I know, I've been posting on a list haunted by a bunch of crypto-white supremists (crypto, as in secret, hidden). And if that's the case, then I wan

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-12 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 11 Jan 2003, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote: > On Sat, 11 Jan 2003, Bill Stewart wrote: > > > Any time you post to a list of a bunch of people you don't know, > > you might be posting to a list of a bunch of people you don't like. > > Reading the archives sometimes helps. > > A (hopefully) helpful

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-11 Thread Meyer Wolfsheim
On Sat, 11 Jan 2003, Bill Stewart wrote: > Any time you post to a list of a bunch of people you don't know, > you might be posting to a list of a bunch of people you don't like. > Reading the archives sometimes helps. A (hopefully) helpful hint for the newcomers to this list: Bill is usually the

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-10 Thread Tyler Durden
Some guy wrote You are moron. Care to be a little more specific? (I'm not afraid of a little criticism, particularly if its constructive.) Even if true, I don't see how that comment pertains to my reply. For all I know, I've been posting on a list haunted by a bunch of crypto-white sup

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-09 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 9:17 AM -0800 on 1/9/03, Bill Stewart wrote: > I've usually been the one wearing the fedora in cooler weather, > and a few people wore Red Hats back in the day. Don't ever do it without your fez on? :-). Cheers, RAH Not that a fez would work very well for that kind of thing. Well, not *that

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-09 Thread Mike Rosing
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Steve Mynott wrote: > Read the Rig Veda and break out the soma (if you know what it was). Or better, what it is :-) Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-09 Thread Steve Mynott
On Wednesday, Jan 8, 2003, at 22:10 Europe/London, Tyler Durden wrote: Tim May wrote... "Cowboy hats are much more common in Cypherpunks Bay Aryan meetings" Uh...do you actually hold "Aryan" meetings? Is this a "white" "supremist" thing, or will the following be welcome: Iranians Afghans Mos

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-09 Thread A.Melon
>SIgh. Although I read May's "Crypto Anarchy" piece and liked it, I am slowly >coming to the conclusion that he's just another dimwitted fascist who by >accident had a few interesting ideas. You're Guilty for Not Doing Your Homework. Mr. May's views on sick, disabled, niggers and women are avai

Re: Cypherpunk fashions for the New Ashcroft Era (Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary)

2003-01-09 Thread Bill Stewart
At 03:14 PM 01/08/2003 -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: At 11:34 PM 1/8/03 +0100, Thomas Shaddack wrote: >I don't know the weaknesses of gait-observing systems, so I can't suggest >anything. Kilts for men (over the knee, please, and not for aesthetics). Hoop-skirts for women. A heavy backpack ca

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-08 Thread Tyler Durden
Tim May wrote... I've been seeing your nitwitticisms and shallow observations for several weeks now. Time to plonk you. Bye. And I can honestly say that based on Tim May's responses, he simply doesn't "get" what I am saying most of the time. In this case I wasn't actually being too clever. I

Cypherpunk fashions for the New Ashcroft Era (Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary)

2003-01-08 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 11:34 PM 1/8/03 +0100, Thomas Shaddack wrote: >I don't know the weaknesses of gait-observing systems, so I can't suggest >anything. Kilts for men (over the knee, please, and not for aesthetics). Hoop-skirts for women. A heavy backpack carried asymmetrically (for extra fun, use a canteen where t

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-08 Thread Thomas Shaddack
> It doesn't matter what you wear. Even if everybody would be wearing a > flowing robe and a face mask (fat chance; right now donning this would > invite for some deep anal probing), Not over some critical mass. Also could pit the media against the police, if the rate of such incidents against no

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-08 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 02:10 PM, Tyler Durden wrote: Tim May wrote... "Cowboy hats are much more common in Cypherpunks Bay Aryan meetings" Uh...do you actually hold "Aryan" meetings? Is this a "white" "supremist" thing, or will the following be welcome: Iranians Afghans Most peopl

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-08 Thread Tyler Durden
Tim May wrote... "Cowboy hats are much more common in Cypherpunks Bay Aryan meetings" Uh...do you actually hold "Aryan" meetings? Is this a "white" "supremist" thing, or will the following be welcome: Iranians Afghans Most people hailing from Northern India Turks And for that matter, what abou

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-08 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 11:40 AM, R. A. Hettinga wrote: At 10:28 AM -0800 on 1/8/03, James A. Donald wrote: Men's fashions, however, change at the speed of glaciers, so there is little chance of that becoming acceptable for men. All we need is the return of the fedora, I'd bet, as

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-08 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, James A. Donald wrote: > In today's Vietnam women commonly dress like Ninjas, completely > covering every square inch of skin. Even the eyes are covered > with dark glasses. The costume however is tight, covering the > face but revealing the figure. It doesn't matter what

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-08 Thread Tyler Durden
"James A. Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sarad AV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Thomas Shaddack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 14:40:20 -0500 At 10:28 AM -0800 on 1/8/03, James A. Donald w

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-08 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 10:28 AM -0800 on 1/8/03, James A. Donald wrote: > Men's fashions, however, change at the speed of glaciers, so > there is little chance of that becoming acceptable for men. All we need is the return of the fedora, I'd bet, as most cameras I can remember are up high. Cheers, RAH -- ---

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-08 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 8 Jan 2003 at 16:54, Thomas Shaddack wrote: > In Japan, people are already wearing face masks frequently, > ie. during the flu season. If such cultural shift happens > here as well, we have partial protection against the > face-recognition cams. In today's Vietnam women commonly dress

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-08 Thread Thomas Shaddack
> May be the worlds air getting polluted isn't so > bad-atleast we could put anti-pollution masks and > protect our identity :) In Japan, people are already wearing face masks frequently, ie. during the flu season. If such cultural sh9ft happens here as well, we have partial protection against t

Re: Security cameras are getting smart -- and scary

2003-01-08 Thread Sarad AV
hi, So where does that put privacy to.Your whole life outside the house can be monitered-when there are many cameras. May be the worlds air getting polluted isn't so bad-atleast we could put anti-pollution masks and protect our identity :) Regards Sarath. --- Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>