Re: Niiice kitty....

2000-10-08 Thread Reese
At 01:19 PM 08/10/00 -0400, James A.. Donald wrote: > -- >At 12:19 AM 08/10/00 -0400, James A.. Donald wrote: > > > So are you claiming that this alleged evidence seemingly cited by > > > Chomsky exists, or are you denying that Chomsky claimed the > > > existence of this evidence? > >06

Re: Niiice kitty....

2000-10-08 Thread James A.. Donald
-- At 12:19 AM 08/10/00 -0400, James A.. Donald wrote: > > So are you claiming that this alleged evidence seemingly cited by > > Chomsky exists, or are you denying that Chomsky claimed the > > existence of this evidence? 06:51 PM 10/7/2000 -1000, Reese wrote: > Learn how to read - and co

Re: Niiice kitty....

2000-10-07 Thread Reese
At 12:19 AM 08/10/00 -0400, James A.. Donald wrote: >Chomsky made some remarkable claims, which I have quoted, for the >existence of some remarkable evidence. > >So are you claiming that this alleged evidence seemingly cited by Chomsky >exists, or are you denying that Chomsky claimed the exi

Re: Niiice kitty....

2000-10-07 Thread James A.. Donald
-- At 09:55 PM 10/7/2000 -0400, Reese wrote: > You are the entity making the allegations, yet Chomsky remains as > accredited in some circles as he ever was. Chomsky made some remarkable claims, which I have quoted, for the existence of some remarkable evidence. So are you claiming that t

Re: Niiice kitty....

2000-10-07 Thread James A.. Donald
-- At 08:36 PM 10/7/2000 -0700, James A.. Donald wrote: Chomsky before 1979: (falsely purporting to be quoting "highly qualified specialists") : : executions have numbered at most in the thousands; that : : these were localized in areas of limited Khmer Rouge : : influence and u

Re: Niiice kitty....

2000-10-07 Thread James A.. Donald
-- At 10:59 AM 10/7/2000 -1000, Reese wrote: > You've yet to make a coherent argument that will stand on its own I have presented examples of Chomsky citing vaguely specified sources that supposedly provide evidence for all sorts of astonishing things, supposedly provide evidence for the

Re: Niiice kitty....

2000-10-07 Thread Reese
At 07:24 PM 07/10/00 -0400, James A.. Donald wrote: >At 02:12 PM 10/7/2000 -0400, Tim May wrote: > > As for Chomsky, I've been deleting all of the recent posts arguing > > pro- or con-Chomsky. > >You did not miss much. > >In the most recent Chomsky thread, all the same things were said, as

Re: Niiice kitty....

2000-10-07 Thread Tim May
At 1:42 PM -0400 10/7/00, Steve Furlong wrote: >Ray Dillinger wrote: >> >> Hi everybody; >> >> I have no interest in Chomsky flames and wish they would die. >> In fact, I'm going to *MAKE* them die, for me at least, by >> filtering posts on chomsky's name. (yes, this post right here >> is go

Re: Niiice kitty....

2000-10-07 Thread Steve Furlong
Ray Dillinger wrote: > > Hi everybody; > > I have no interest in Chomsky flames and wish they would die. > In fact, I'm going to *MAKE* them die, for me at least, by > filtering posts on chomsky's name. (yes, this post right here > is going into the bitbucket when it gets back to me from the >

Re: Niiice kitty....

2000-10-07 Thread Ray Dillinger
Hi everybody; I have no interest in Chomsky flames and wish they would die. In fact, I'm going to *MAKE* them die, for me at least, by filtering posts on chomsky's name. (yes, this post right here is going into the bitbucket when it gets back to me from the list). I'm just dropping this

Re: Niiice kitty....

2000-10-07 Thread James A.. Donald
-- At 07:56 PM 10/6/2000 -1000, Reese wrote: > It > dissects whines such as yours and sends them to the oven, where they can > be properly roasted with flesh-searing heat, the better to reduce the > fatty content. I have often remarked on how Chomsky's board treats inconvenient facts and

Re: Niiice kitty....

2000-10-07 Thread James A.. Donald
-- At 03:39 PM 06/10/00 -1000, Reese wrote: James A.. Donald wrote: > > Distortions at Fourth Hand > > Noam Chomsky and Edward S. Herman > >The Nation, June 25, 1977 > > > >: : such journals as the Far Eastern Economic Review , the > >: : London Economist , the Melbourne

Re: Niiice kitty....

2000-10-06 Thread James A.. Donald
-- James A. Donald: > > In his 1977 Nation article Chomsky claimed: 08:25 PM 10/5/2000 -1000, Reese wrote: > *bt* > > 20 years or newer, remember? Within the last decade, or two? Remember? So are you now admitting that Chomsky used to continually make fraudulent citation

Re: Niiice kitty....

2000-10-06 Thread James A.. Donald
-- At 09:41 PM 10/5/2000 -0400, snit wrote: > > > look, digslug, Justin Schwartz is an oxford-trained, > > > yale-trained scholar, now a lawyer with the seventh circuit. > > > he doesn't type things on a publicly accessible listserv where > > > he can easily be quoted and humiliated for

Re: Niiice kitty....

2000-10-05 Thread James A.. Donald
-- James A. Donald: > > Almost every Chomsky citation that I have checked was at best somewhat misleading, and at worst a lie. At 03:31 PM 10/5/2000 -1000, Reese wrote: > We've already seen how you picked up an extra word in that massacre quote, > is it safe to assume you've made other e

Re: Niiice kitty....

2000-10-05 Thread James A.. Donald
-- James A. Donald: > > It would take you [Justin Schwartz] years to check five hundred > > Chomsky citations. His citations are at best obscure and hard to > > find, at worst impossible to find. At 09:41 PM 10/5/2000 -0400, snit wrote: > look, digslug, Justin Schwartz is an oxford-trai

Re: Niiice kitty....

2000-10-03 Thread James A.. Donald
-- At 02:23 AM 10/3/2000 -0400, Steven Furlong wrote: > But if Chomsky were in the habit of making up or "massaging" quotes, > perhaps he wouldn't give full reference information even for real > quotes. That way, when he did make up a quote, the lack of full cite > wouldn't count as a dat

Re: CDR: Re: Niiice kitty....

2000-10-03 Thread Ken Brown
The quote it attributed to Clive Ponting's book on Churchill. So all anyone has to do is check that. Ponting is a reasonably well-known author it should be possible to find the book and check page 132. Whether Ponting was telling the truth is another matter - but he isn't Chomsky. Nor is he a

Re: Niiice kitty.... (try 2)

2000-10-02 Thread James A.. Donald
-- Jim Choate wrote > Anyway. I 'm not aware of any overt instances. I did some checking > of resoruces when I read "Deterring Democracy". All of them (maybe a > dozen) checked out and the quotes were reasonably represented. Really? Most Chomsky citations are extremely difficult to che

Re: Niiice kitty....

2000-10-02 Thread James A.. Donald
-- At 08:10 PM 01/10/00 -0700, James A.. Donald wrote: >Chomsky is hardly a reliable source. He routinely fabricates or falsifies >quotes. I suggest you check his alleged sources. > >Chances are you will be unable to find his alleged source. In the unlikely >event that you are able

Re: Niiice kitty....

2000-10-02 Thread Steven Furlong
"James A.. Donald" wrote: > If Churchill really said such a thing, we would have some source better > than Chomsky for it, and if Churchill really did say it, Chomsky would have > given us a source that was possible to verify. But if Chomsky were in the habit of making up or "massaging" quotes, p

Re: Niiice kitty....

2000-10-02 Thread James A.. Donald
-- At 07:49 AM 10/2/2000 -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote: If you're in a hurry to actually back up your assertion, however, you're welcome to do so sooner, if you would like. :-). How can I prove Churchill did not say this? The problem is the curious absence of evidence that he did say it. Th

Re: Niiice kitty.... (try 2)

2000-10-02 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, Jim Choate wrote: > > On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, Reese wrote: > > > > > Are there any examples of this documented anywhere, preferably on the web? > > > > I'm not aware of any overt instances. I > Ok, let's try that one again I think my machine is digitaly hallucinating.

Re: CDR: Re: Niiice kitty....

2000-10-02 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, Reese wrote: > > Are there any examples of this documented anywhere, preferably on the web? > I'm not aware of any overt instances. I