Re: Fact checking

2004-04-28 Thread Damian Gerow
Thus spake Harmon Seaver ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [28/04/04 11:40]: : > "Hi, Sir, my name is Bob and I'm here to educate you about all the : > candidates in the upcoming election that your eight second attention span : > will allow me. Oops, I guess I've used it all up. Bye now!" : > : > These things

Re: Fact checking

2004-04-28 Thread Damian Gerow
Thus spake Justin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [28/04/04 15:41]: : > Damian Gerow wrote: : > >I don't see any way to educate the mass public. : > : > Indeed, why bother? How about a system that removes your right to vote : > if you haven't exercised it in the last 3 elections? : : Requiring that adults vo

Re: Fact checking

2004-04-28 Thread Justin
Graham Lally (2004-04-28 14:47Z) wrote: > Damian Gerow wrote: > >I don't see any way to educate the mass public. > > Indeed, why bother? How about a system that removes your right to vote > if you haven't exercised it in the last 3 elections? Requiring that adults vote is a terrible idea. While

Re: Fact checking

2004-04-28 Thread Justin
Thomas Shaddack (2004-04-28 18:32Z) wrote: > What won't hurt could be making them liable for their promises, as they > can be considered to be a contract with the voters. With specific > penalties for not delivering the results in the specified timeframe. Presidents don't pass laws. Presidential

Re: Fact checking

2004-04-28 Thread Thomas Shaddack
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004, Tim Benham wrote: > > I bet people would start voting after that. > If they don't, offer them two vials of crack! It's already being done; it's called "political promises". The candidates are usually pretty high on that stuff. What won't hurt could be making them liable for

Re: Fact checking

2004-04-28 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 09:05:32PM -0400, Damian Gerow wrote: > > Thus spake Harmon Seaver ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [27/04/04 17:18]: > :All of the above, but mostly door-to-door voter registration. When you > : consider that both klinton and dubbya were elected with only 13%-14% of the > : eligibl

Re: Fact checking

2004-04-28 Thread Graham Lally
Damian Gerow wrote: Why bother putting something up in a library? Chances are, if someone's reading it there, they're already somewhat knowledgable about the candidates. Or heck, maybe they're even there to do /research/ on them! > [...] I don't see any way to educate the mass public. Indeed, why

Re: Fact checking

2004-04-27 Thread Damian Gerow
Thus spake Harmon Seaver ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [27/04/04 17:18]: :All of the above, but mostly door-to-door voter registration. When you : consider that both klinton and dubbya were elected with only 13%-14% of the : eligible voters, it wouldn't take all that many new voters to really make a : di

Re: Fact checking

2004-04-27 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 08:20:06PM -0400, Damian Gerow wrote: > > Thus spake Harmon Seaver ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26/04/04 19:25]: > :And the local elections are no prime pickings either, it's crooks to the left > : of us, crooks to the right of us, ahead and behind, above and below. Extremely >

Re: Fact checking

2004-04-26 Thread Damian Gerow
Thus spake Harmon Seaver ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26/04/04 19:25]: :And the local elections are no prime pickings either, it's crooks to the left : of us, crooks to the right of us, ahead and behind, above and below. Extremely : few real choices. The real problem is -- most people don't vote. What

Re: Fact checking

2004-04-26 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 04:12:40PM -0400, Damian Gerow wrote: > > Agreed, every politician has their own problems. I /personally/ don't > believe that Mr. Gore was trying to take credit for 'inventing' the > Internet. His wording is incredibly vague, and I agree that it could be > taken as him t

Re: Fact checking

2004-04-26 Thread Damian Gerow
Thus spake Pete Capelli ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26/04/04 16:01]: : > Yes, that's exactly what he said: : > : > : > : > That's not saying that he invented the internet, it's saying that he took : > initiative in creating it. Two very different

Re: Fact checking

2004-04-26 Thread sunder
Damian Gerow wrote: I don't give a flying fuck who you vote for, who the options are, what you think of them, or even if they're convicted drunk drivers hell-bent on converting the world to their belief system (...). You, sir, are in great need of an enema. *PLONK*

Re: Fact checking

2004-04-26 Thread Pete Capelli
> : B*llshit. From a transcript of an interview of Al Gore by Wolf Blitzer: > : http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/03/09/president.2000/transcript.gore/ > : > : " During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in > : creating the Internet." > > Yes, that's exactly w

Re: Fact checking

2004-04-26 Thread Damian Gerow
Thus spake Pete Capelli ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26/04/04 13:56]: : > Who you vote for is up to you. I'm not telling you to vote for him, I'm : > just correcting a pretty large non-truth propogated by American media. : : B*llshit. From a transcript of an interview of Al Gore by Wolf Blitzer: : http:/

Re: Fact checking

2004-04-26 Thread Pete Capelli
Damian Gerow wrote: > Who you vote for is up to you. I'm not telling you to vote for him, I'm > just correcting a pretty large non-truth propogated by American media. B*llshit. From a transcript of an interview of Al Gore by Wolf Blitzer: http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/03/09/preside

Re: Fact checking

2004-04-26 Thread Damian Gerow
Thus spake sunder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [26/04/04 13:38]: : >Hey, I'm no fan of Tipper either. And I'm not saying that Al Gore was a : >/good/ choice. But in retrospect, he probably would have been a lesser : >evil : >than the current president. : : THAT, ultimately is the meta-point. You should

Re: Fact checking

2004-04-26 Thread sunder
Damian Gerow wrote: Hey, I'm no fan of Tipper either. And I'm not saying that Al Gore was a /good/ choice. But in retrospect, he probably would have been a lesser evil than the current president. THAT, ultimately is the meta-point. You shouldn't have to vote for the lesser evil, but when your c