Re: CDR: Re: Spammers Would Be Made To Pay Under IBM Research Proposal

2003-03-22 Thread James A. Donald
-- > > The intention is sender pays, recipient is paid, reflecting > > the real scarcity of readers time. Mailing lists would be > > sent out without postage, but with cryptographic signature, > > and subscribers would have to OK it. Letters to the list > > would be accompanied by payment,

Re: CDR: Re: Spammers Would Be Made To Pay Under IBM Research Proposal

2003-03-22 Thread Steve Schear
At 07:10 PM 3/22/2003 -0800, Tim May wrote: On Saturday, March 22, 2003, at 03:49 PM, Steve Schear wrote: Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 14:18:10 -0500 From: Jamie Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Steve Schear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CDR: Re: Spammers Would Be

Re: CDR: Re: CDR: Re: Spammers Would Be Made To Pay Under IBM Research Proposal

2003-03-22 Thread Tim May
On Saturday, March 22, 2003, at 03:49 PM, Steve Schear wrote: Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 14:18:10 -0500 From: Jamie Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Steve Schear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CDR: Re: Spammers Would Be Made To Pay Under IBM Research Proposal M

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2003-03-22 Thread Steve Schear
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 14:18:10 -0500 From: Jamie Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Steve Schear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CDR: Re: Spammers Would Be Made To Pay Under IBM Research Proposal Mail-Followup-To: Steve Schear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,

Re: CDR: Re: Spammers Would Be Made To Pay Under IBM Research Proposal

2003-03-22 Thread Jamie Lawrence
On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, James A. Donald wrote: > The intention is sender pays, recipient is paid, reflecting the > real scarcity of readers time. Mailing lists would be sent Which in the real world will never happen. Sender-pays, if deployed, will end up being something like MS's Penny Black, wh

Re: CDR: Re: Spammers Would Be Made To Pay Under IBM Research Proposal

2003-03-22 Thread Jamie Lawrence
On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Steve Schear wrote: > I guess you have unlimited time and consider your time worthless. Its not That doesn't follow at all. I consider my limited time very valuble. I simply believe creating an artificial scarcity at the infrastructure level a bad way to address spam. > t

Re: CDR: Re: Spammers Would Be Made To Pay Under IBM Research Proposal

2003-03-21 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 21 Mar 2003 at 23:01, Jamie Lawrence wrote: > We all want to get rid of spam. I think most folks on this > list are in favor of using market dynamics to influence > behaviour. I think adding an artificial fee to sending email > is stupid. It is creating false scarcity to fix a broken