At 07:46 PM 10/28/01 -0800, someone with the password to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>Some people need killing, some people don't. The difference
>is not always clear, but when it comes to imperial soldiers
>and trade towers, the difference is clear enough.
It's always refreshing to see
Jim Choate wrote:
>
> On Sat, 27 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > If you cannot tell the difference between terrorists and
> > freedom fighters, you got shit for brains.
> >
> > The revolutionaries killed british soldiers in America. They
> > did not go to england and kill english chil
On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 12:58:03PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Collateral damage. We are not targeting them.
Ah, so even though collateral damage is the inevitable consequence of
war, that makes it all OK. I get it. So what for the suffering of
thousands in pursuit of revenge? "The end j
On Sun, 28 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Jim Choate:
> > Why is where they were killed important?
>
> It is unimportant. What matters is what those one kill are doing.
Ah, here is the double standard in your argument.
> British soldiers were repressing colonials. The guys in the trad
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On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 08:58:30AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> > What matters is what those one kills are doing. British
> > soldiers [in the American revolutionary war] were
> > repressing colonials. The guys in the trade towers were
> > not doing anything to Muslims.
On 28 Oct 2
On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 08:58:30AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It is unimportant. What matters is what those one kill are doing.
> British soldiers were repressing colonials. The guys in the trade
> towers were not doing anything to Muslims.
So what about all the civilians in Afghanistan
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James A. Donald:
> > If you cannot tell the difference between terrorists and
> > freedom fighters, you got shit for brains.
> >
> > The revolutionaries killed british soldiers in America. They
> > did not go to england and kill english children.
Jim Choate:
> Why is where they were kille
On Sat, 27 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> If you cannot tell the difference between terrorists and
> freedom fighters, you got shit for brains.
>
> The revolutionaries killed british soldiers in America. They
> did not go to england and kill english children.
Why is where they were kill
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On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote:
> > I just have a lot of trouble equating terrorism and the
> > American war of independence.
On 26 Oct 2001, at 20:43, Jim Choate wrote:
> Why? The Americans were most certainly
> terrorist/revolutionaries/freedom fighters/etc.
If you cannot
[Warning: Use of 3rd person 'you']
On Sat, 27 Oct 2001, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote:
> Again, you make no distinction between freedom fighters and terrorists,
> which is very sad because there is a rather important difference. Being
> incapable of making the distinction, you are condemned to hate
Jim Choate wrote:
> Why? The Americans were most certainly terrorist/revolutionaries/freedom
> fighters/etc.
Again, you make no distinction between freedom fighters and terrorists,
which is very sad because there is a rather important difference. Being
incapable of making the distinction, you
On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote:
> No argument there - I just have a lot of trouble equating terrorism and
> the American war of independence.
Why? The Americans were most certainly terrorist/revolutionaries/freedom
fighters/etc.
> Arms should indeed be taken up against
> those w
David Honig wrote:
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> At 12:42 PM 10/25/01 +0800, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote:
> >Jim Choate wrote:
> >> > We need to send a message that "armed propaganda" is not an acceptable
> >> > form of self-expression, no matter what the alleged cause.
> >>
> >> Review the American revolution and the cur
On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote:
> Jim Choate wrote:
>
> >
> > > We need to send a message that "armed propaganda" is not an acceptable
> > > form of self-expression, no matter what the alleged cause.
> >
> > Review the American revolution and the current news before you follow t
Jim Choate wrote:
>
> > We need to send a message that "armed propaganda" is not an acceptable
> > form of self-expression, no matter what the alleged cause.
>
> Review the American revolution and the current news before you follow this
> little meme very far.
..and your point is...?
Marc d
The Ames Strain of Anthrax wasn't "developed" in Ames, It was "discovered".
It was naturally occurring strain that was resistant to the anti-biotics
that were used to treat Anthrax at the time.
It is very commonly used in the study and research of bacteria, and up to a
few years ago could be eas
David Honig wrote:
> Personally I'd prefer a non-colonial foreign policy that doesn't generate
> such antipathy.
And if you believe that WTC had anything to do with US foreign policy,
or that we would cease being targets if we e.g. dropped suppport for
Israel, you are living in a dream world and
At 10:11 AM 10/24/01 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>David Honig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
>>
>>Personally I'd prefer a non-colonial foreign policy that doesn't generate
>>such antipathy.
>>
>>The message of the WTC is this: regular ole' non-mil sheeple *are* held
>>responsible for
>>the acti
David Honig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
>
>Personally I'd prefer a non-colonial foreign policy that doesn't generate
>such antipathy.
>
>The message of the WTC is this: regular ole' non-mil sheeple *are* held
>responsible for
>the actions of their government. *Even* in the US. What a concept.
At 12:23 PM 10/24/01 +0100, Ken Brown wrote:
>>
>> Our society has, for all practical purposes, endless vulnerabilities. If
>> as each vulnerability is exploited we plan on taking drastic steps to
>> secure it from future exploitation, the costs will be staggering and the
>> list of unsecured ite
> Tim May[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
>
> One minute spent searching on "anthrax ames" will disabuse the clueful
> of the mistakes made above.
>
> The Ames strain is _not_ "militarized anthrax."
>
> --Tim May
>
>From what I heard yesterday, the 'Ames strain' was, until 1996, mailed
to research
On Tuesday, October 23, 2001, at 04:02 PM, Harmon Seaver wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Our society has, for all practical purposes, endless vulnerabilities.
>> If
>> as each vulnerability is exploited we plan on taking drastic steps to
>> secure it from future exploitation, the costs wi
>The really weird thing about this whole anthrax scene is that all
>the spores seem to be of the Ames variety, which is a militarized anthrax
>developed in Ames, Iowa. It really seems suspicious to me that these are of
>domestic origin -- bin Ladin or whoever would be in all likelihood be using
>a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > Shit, so much for ordering mushroom spores by mail!
> > Hopefully UPS and fedex won't follow suit.
> >
> Another option might be for each package to be dropped into a poly bag,
> heat sealed and rinsed before being handled by staff.
>
> Our society has, for all pra
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