Re: CyberPatrol sues cryptanalysts who revealed flaws in

2000-03-25 Thread Marcel Popescu
X-Loop: openpgp.net From: Steve Schear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > When I brought this up in conversation yesterday a colleague said that > there is a generally recognized assumption of privacy when two or more > parties to a conversation take measures, for example closing the door to a > room or encry

RE: CyberPatrol sues cryptanalysts who revealed flaws in

2000-03-25 Thread Steve Schear
At 09:24 AM 3/24/00 -0500, Fisher Mark wrote: >Reese wrote: > >>What about if I purchase the Navaho module for my Dragon > >>Dictate, voice input software, and have it translate the conversations I > >>capture from by back porch? > >> > >IANAL. This may fall under illegal eavesdropping, whether yo

RE: CyberPatrol sues cryptanalysts who revealed flaws in

2000-03-24 Thread Fisher Mark
Reese wrote: >>What about if I purchase the Navaho module for my Dragon >>Dictate, voice input software, and have it translate the conversations I >>capture from by back porch? >> >IANAL. This may fall under illegal eavesdropping, whether you make a >recording MayOrMayNot be a determining factor

RE: CyberPatrol sues cryptanalysts who revealed flaws in itssoftw

2000-03-24 Thread Fisher Mark
> Ed Gerck wrote: > > As to the counter-example you ask, the general public profits by > > lack of disclosure of the algorithm that allows nuclear bombs > > to be made with 1 pound of enriched uranium. We have less > > nuclear powers. > I'd like one of the real physicists on the list to weigh i

Re: CyberPatrol sues cryptanalysts who revealed flaws in

2000-03-21 Thread Tim May
At 10:34 PM -0500 3/21/00, David Honig wrote: >At 12:19 PM 3/21/00 -0500, Ed Gerck wrote: >> Also, in the US as well as in most >>countries, a newspaper can protect the anonymity of its source, a >>private company does not have to disclose its statements, etc. -- > >all, expressions of privacy

Re: CyberPatrol sues cryptanalysts who revealed flaws in

2000-03-21 Thread Petro
Vogt: >I don't think they had any of these deep thoughts. they were just pissed >that the software wouldn't tell them what it did. I occasionally rip >software apart for very similiar reasons, like finding out what it does, >or how it does it. if curiosity is a crime, we should all go back and >li

Re: CyberPatrol sues cryptanalysts who revealed flaws in

2000-03-21 Thread David Honig
At 12:27 PM 3/21/00 -0500, Tom Vogt wrote: >just wouldn't call it privacy, or better: the equivalent of privacy in >german ("Privatsphäre"). What is sphäre?

Re: CyberPatrol sues cryptanalysts who revealed flaws in

2000-03-21 Thread David Honig
At 12:19 PM 3/21/00 -0500, Ed Gerck wrote: > Also, in the US as well as in most >countries, a newspaper can protect the anonymity of its source, a >private company does not have to disclose its statements, etc. -- >all, expressions of privacy rights. That's going away now that everyone's a publ

Re: CyberPatrol sues cryptanalysts who revealed flaws in

2000-03-21 Thread David Honig
At 03:53 PM 3/21/00 -0500, Sunder wrote: > >I'd say the general public of Taiwan would feel much safer in such a situation. It will be interesting to see, 20 years hence, whether the Pakis' and the Indians' recent engineering feats are stabilizing or used. One doubts they're irrelevent, if only

Re: CDR: Re: CyberPatrol sues cryptanalysts who revealed flaws in itssoftware

2000-03-21 Thread Sunder
Ed Gerck wrote: > > > in general, the general public profits if some secret algorithm gets > > known. to be honest, I can't think of a single counter-example. > As to the counter-example you ask, the general public profits by > lack of disclosure of the algorithm that allows nuclear bombs > to

Re: CyberPatrol sues cryptanalysts who revealed flaws in

2000-03-17 Thread Greg Broiles
At 09:58 AM 3/17/00, Ed Gerck wrote: >"Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law" wrote: > > > I think there may be a claim in defamation if your site was blocked and > > the software claims you have some kind of nasty content... > >But, what happens (as is the case) when that software claims nothi