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> From: Tim May[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 12:02 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Comped scribblers the bane of conferences
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> On Saturday, August 25, 2001, at 07:59 AM, Declan McCullagh wrote:
On Saturday, August 25, 2001, at 11:51 PM, dmolnar wrote:
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> On Sat, 25 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote:
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>> (What might? Putting several of the main architects of competing
>> systems
>> like Freedom, Mojo, Morpheus, Mixmaster, etc. together in a room with
>> plenty of blackboards, a lot of beer, a
On Saturday, August 25, 2001, at 11:51 PM, dmolnar wrote:
> So what I should do now, I guess, is contact the Morpheus team and
> convince them to come. maybe submit something if they feel like it.
>
>
I need to add another comment.
I don't know if you speak for the P.E.T. Workshop or not, Dave,
On Sat, 25 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote:
> (What might? Putting several of the main architects of competing systems
> like Freedom, Mojo, Morpheus, Mixmaster, etc. together in a room with
> plenty of blackboards, a lot of beer, and some folks like Lucky, Wei
> Dai, Hal Finney, and others to hash out s
BTW I'm sure Tim is upset he missed "Borderhack":
http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,46304,00.html
Privacy advocate Tara Lemmey is CEO of Project Lens, a cooperative
environment between government, public, and the private sector arenas
at the converging point between society and innovation.
On Sat, Aug 25, 2001 at 05:44:39PM -0700, Tim May wrote:
> I won't pay these rates for _any_ conference. Greg Broiles hit the nail
> on the head: the only ones worth paying for are the ones with short-term
> economic payoff. For CFP, this probably means law firms hoping to get
> some business,
Bill makes an excellent point. Journalists (especially at a place like
the PFF conference, where technical content is practically zero and
no news happens) are part of the attraction. Lobbyists and execs are
more likely to agree to grace the event with their presence if journalists
show up (CSPAN
On Saturday, August 25, 2001, at 06:52 PM, dmolnar wrote:
> [on the PET 2002 workshop]
>> I'm skeptical. I haven't looked in detail at this one, but the one
>> Choate forwarded twice to the list was filled with corporate folks on
>> the committees. (Some of whom used to be list subscribers. Fine
On Sat, 25 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote:
> The hard part is getting beyond the canned speeches. For one thing,
> these people (the SF writers especially!) are used to people running up
> to them at SF conferences babbling to them about some story idea, so
> they "put their shields up."
I suspect I'm
On Sat, Aug 25, 2001 at 01:32:31PM -0700, Tim May wrote:
> I'll contact the CFP organizers and ask for one of their hundreds of
> free passes to the panels, talks, and banquets.
Let me know if you're turned down. BTW reporters have to pay for
banquets and lunch/dinners at CFP. Some are $50.
-De
On Sat, 25 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote:
> First, $1500 per conference sounds way too high, even by today's
> inflated standards.
Just off the top of my head:
O'Reilly P2P Conference, Standard Conference Fee: $1595
http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/p2pweb2001/pub/w/16/register.html
RSA 2002 Conf
On Sat, Aug 25, 2001 at 03:19:49PM -0400, dmolnar wrote:
> This year, there's a workshop on Privacy Enhancing Technologies being held
> immediately prior to CFP in the same building. Maybe this will lead to
> more interaction.
I'm looking forward to that. Wish I had made the first one.
> Well, c
On Saturday, August 25, 2001, at 07:59 AM, Declan McCullagh wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 04:14:04PM -0700, Tim May wrote:
>> Meanwhile, don't expect to see me at the next CFP conference! Plenty
>> of
>> comped scribblers, though.
>
> CFP is in SF next year, so you may want to stop by.
>
> A
On Sat, Aug 25, 2001 at 09:38:34AM -0700, Tim May wrote:
> Granted, the conference gets publicity. But, presumably, the magazine or
> other outlet gets readers and viewers. A two-way street, right?
Maybe. But so far, market forces have prompted few conferences to try
to push journalists around a
On Saturday, August 25, 2001, at 07:59 AM, Declan McCullagh wrote:
> As for "comped scribblers," I am one. But look at it from a
> journalist's perspective: We may attend two conferences a week, say at
> $1,500/per. Rough estimates, then, would be over $150,000 a year, more
> than most journalist
On Sat, Aug 25, 2001 at 09:02:06AM -0700, Tim May wrote:
> First, $1500 per conference sounds way too high, even by today's
> inflated standards.
Tim, you haven't been to that many commercial conferences recently. I
spoke at Internet World last month, and that's exactly how much it is.
Even give
On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 04:14:04PM -0700, Tim May wrote:
> Meanwhile, don't expect to see me at the next CFP conference! Plenty of
> comped scribblers, though.
CFP is in SF next year, so you may want to stop by.
As for "comped scribblers," I am one. But look at it from a
journalist's perspecti
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