Re: Possible Internet Split (plan D)

2001-07-28 Thread jamesd
-- On 26 Jul 2001, at 13:54, Ray Dillinger wrote: > The problem with Plan D, if implemented over the current Internet, > is that the low levels of the internet are a tree rather than a > proper network. There are choke points and listening points at > which all of a particular person's traffi

Re: Possible Internet Split (plan D)

2001-07-27 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Ray Dillinger wrote: >Characteristics of a "chaos web" include mobile content -- an idea >already espoused by mojo nation and freenet -- but that means you >can't hook up the database servers on the other end of your website >and monitor where the people go, so mainstream bus

Re: Possible Internet Split (plan D)

2001-07-27 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Ray Dillinger wrote: >Characteristics of a "chaos web" include mobile content -- an idea >already espoused by mojo nation and freenet -- but that means you >can't hook up the database servers on the other end of your website >and monitor where the people go, so mainstream bus

Possible Internet Split (plan D)

2001-07-27 Thread Ray Dillinger
http://slashdot.org/yro/01/07/26/1553257.shtml These are a bunch of people who want to make fundamental architectural changes to the internet, to make it so they can prevent people from getting services unless they are paid money. Oddly enough, this comes at a time when I've been thinking

Re: Possible Internet Split (plan D)

2001-07-27 Thread David Honig
At 01:54 PM 7/26/01 -0700, Ray Dillinger wrote: >Oddly enough, this comes at a time when I've been thinking very >seriously about some of the implications of "Plan D." Basically, >we need to think very hard about the infrastructure, if we intend >to build something that is truly censorship-pro