Re: Orange crush

2002-01-08 Thread cubic-dog
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Ken Brown wrote: > I suggest that the author of this insulting piece of nonsense go into > any decent library and pick up a book on the 18th & 19th century > agricultural revolution. Or read any standard account of the life of > Louis Pasteur. Inorganic fungicides, pesticides

Orange Crush

2002-01-08 Thread mattd
Perth has a heavily contaminated site as well as Derby in west au.The story is ongoing and the water table in perth is said to be affected.The WA agriculture minister is calling for more information on the alleged heat damaged batch believed imported between 69-71 disguised as another chemical

Re: Orange crush

2002-01-08 Thread Ken Brown
I suggest that the author of this insulting piece of nonsense go into any decent library and pick up a book on the 18th & 19th century agricultural revolution. Or read any standard account of the life of Louis Pasteur. Inorganic fungicides, pesticides and herbicides go way back, scientific study o

Re: Orange crush

2002-01-07 Thread Eugene Leitl
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, cubic-dog wrote: > Dunno, maybe you're right, I couldn't get it to happen in the lab > with phenols when I was a chem student without actually burning it. I I wouldn't cook polyhalogenated phenol dry or in high-boiling point solvents in presence of copper powder, and alcali.

Re: Orange crush

2002-01-07 Thread cubic-dog
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Anonymous wrote: > Total bullshit there crock dog. TCDD is also a breakdown product > of both poly-chlorinated phenols like 2,4,D and 2,4,5-T and poly-chlorinated > bi-phenols (PCBs). It really doesn't matter what level tcdd (dioxin) is at > time of manufacture, even boili

Re: Orange crush

2002-01-06 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 1:12 PM -0500 on 1/6/02, cubic-dog wrote: > the only real use of dioxin is > in bleaching paper pulp. In particular, *recycled* paper pulp. An irony is a terrible thing to waste, whether one believes that dioxin is as bad stuff as ostensibly "environmental" socialist fearmongers are wont to

Re: Orange crush

2002-01-06 Thread cubic-dog
On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, mattd wrote: > Agent orange news in Nam... > http://www.infoshop.org/inews/stories.php?story=01/12/31/3456415 > > Scientists investigating the effects of Agent Orange in Vietnam have found > that people living in a so-called hotspot have the highest blood levels of > its p