Re: Mandatory ID Cards

2001-09-19 Thread David Honig
At 01:08 PM 9/19/01 -0700, Eric Cordian wrote: >MSNBC is reporting that Congress is thinking of requiring all citizens and >non-citizens in the United States to carry ID cards. What, if any, power granted to congress lets them think they could justify this?

Re: Mandatory ID Cards -biometric association

2001-09-19 Thread Harmon Seaver
I recall there being fairly high, if not supreme, court decisions in the past confirming that you never have to identify yourself to the police. Other than when driving a car, of course, as that's a "privilege" not a right. So how are they going to force these mandatory ID

Re: Mandatory ID Cards (fwd)

2001-09-19 Thread Jim Choate
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 18:19:51 -0500 Subject: Re: Mandatory ID Cards (fwd) Damn, haven't they figured out that tatoos are cheaper and less prone to loss? Jim Choate wrote: > -- Forwarded message -- > Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:08:47 -0700 (PDT) > From: Eric C

RE: Mandatory ID Cards -biometric association

2001-09-19 Thread Aimee Farr
The conversation elsewhere is out of control...even "negative recognition" in addition to a National Biometric-ID. The fear is that its an "appearance measure." My response on another list was fairly long-winded, but it did include the following: (1) The pretexter. Mr. Terrorist -- he's a suspect

Re: Mandatory ID Cards

2001-09-19 Thread Meyer Wolfsheim
> MSNBC is reporting that Congress is thinking of requiring all citizens > and non-citizens in the United States to carry ID cards. We're already half-way there. With our photo-id driver's licenses, and required identification before boarding airplanes, convenient travel and lack of anonymity go

Re: Mandatory ID Cards

2001-09-19 Thread Meyer Wolfsheim
> MSNBC is reporting that Congress is thinking of requiring all citizens > and non-citizens in the United States to carry ID cards. We're already half-way there. With our photo-id driver's licenses, and required identification before boarding airplanes, convenient travel and lack of anonymity go

Re: Mandatory ID Cards

2001-09-19 Thread Roy M. Silvernail
On 19 Sep 2001, at 13:08, Eric Cordian wrote: > MSNBC is reporting that Congress is thinking of requiring all citizens > and non-citizens in the United States to carry ID cards. Interesting article... http://www.msnbc.com/news/630118.asp for those interested. > It looks like the anti-privacy fo

Mandatory ID Cards

2001-09-19 Thread Eric Cordian
MSNBC is reporting that Congress is thinking of requiring all citizens and non-citizens in the United States to carry ID cards. It looks like the anti-privacy folks are going to do an end-run around the encryption issue, and first attack anonymity. An interesting strategy, and one which we shoul