Re: FC: Hollywood wants to plug "analog hole," regulate A-D

2002-06-03 Thread Joseph Ashwood
- Original Message - From: "Neil Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Joseph Ashwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 6:59 PM Subject: Re: FC: Hollywood wants to plug "analog hole," regulate A-D > On

RE: FC: Hollywood wants to plug "analog hole," regulate A-D

2002-06-03 Thread Trei, Peter
> Dave Emery[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > > On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 08:59:43PM -0500, Neil Johnson wrote: > > > Remember it only requires ONE high-quality non-watermarked analog to > digital > > copy to make it on the net and it's all over. > > And that is what this whole nonsensi

Re: FC: Hollywood wants to plug "analog hole," regulate A-D

2002-06-03 Thread Graham Lally
Mike Rosing wrote: > On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Dave Emery wrote: > >> And telling the public that they face serious jail time if they >>don't turn in that Creative Soundblaster from the old PC in the attic >>closet isn't going to fly. The sheeple may be sheep but even they >>aren't going to acce

Re: FC: Hollywood wants to plug "analog hole," regulate A-D

2002-06-03 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Dave Emery wrote: > And telling the public that they face serious jail time if they > don't turn in that Creative Soundblaster from the old PC in the attic > closet isn't going to fly. The sheeple may be sheep but even they > aren't going to accept that kind of nonsens

Re: FC: Hollywood wants to plug "analog hole," regulate A-D

2002-06-02 Thread Dave Emery
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 08:59:43PM -0500, Neil Johnson wrote: > Remember it only requires ONE high-quality non-watermarked analog to digital > copy to make it on the net and it's all over. And that is what this whole nonsensical scheme founders on. There are probably 300-500 mi

Re: FC: Hollywood wants to plug "analog hole," regulate A-D

2002-06-02 Thread Neil Johnson
On Sunday 02 June 2002 08:24 pm, Joseph Ashwood wrote: >> > The MPAA has not asked that all ADCs be forced to comply, only that those > in a position to be used for video/audio be controlled by a cop-chip. While > the initial concept for this is certainly to bloat the ADC to include the > watermar

Re: RE: FC: Hollywood wants to plug "analog hole," regulate A-D

2002-06-02 Thread Joseph Ashwood
Everything I'm about to say should be taken purely as an analytical discussion of possible solutions in light of the possibilities for the future. For various reasons I discourage performing the analyzed alterations to any electronic device, it will damage certain parts of the functionality of the

RE: FC: Hollywood wants to plug "analog hole," regulate A-D

2002-06-02 Thread Morlock Elloi
> continuing to watch your old video tapes on your old VCR is not an > option after the upgrade and registration deadline for these > infringement devices has passed. Actually, for the last one or two years it's already illegal to sell or re-sell (even used) VCRs without macrovision shit. What w

RE: FC: Hollywood wants to plug "analog hole," regulate A-D

2002-06-02 Thread Lucky Green
Mike wrote: > And what's to prevent it from happening at a high level if > there's enough profit in it? MPAA is a tiny market compared > to the rest of the electronics industry - it will be easy to > bypass the law on a huge scale. You don't need to be a > "sufficiently talented electrical e

Re: FC: Hollywood wants to plug "analog hole," regulate A-D

2002-05-31 Thread Mike Rosing
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Nomen Nescio wrote: > This is absurd. In all the commentary on this issue, no one has made > the obvious point that the MPAA has no interest or intention in putting > watermark detectors into every ADC chip! They don't care about the ADC If they don't they are screwed. >

Re: FC: Hollywood wants to plug "analog hole," regulate A-D

2002-05-31 Thread Nomen Nescio
Peter Trei writes: > My mind has been boggled, my flabbers have been ghasted. > > In the name of protecting their business model, the MPAA > proposes that every analog/digital (A/D) converter - one of > the most basic of chips - be required to check for US > government mandated copyright flags. Qu

RE: FC: Hollywood wants to plug "analog hole," regulate A-D conve rters

2002-05-31 Thread Trei, Peter
> -- > From: Nomen Nescio[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:20 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: FC: Hollywood wants to plug "analog hole," regulate A-D > converters > > Peter

Re: FC: Hollywood wants to plug "analog hole," regulate A-D converters

2002-05-30 Thread Mike Rosing
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Nomen Nescio wrote: > This is absurd. In all the commentary on this issue, no one has made > the obvious point that the MPAA has no interest or intention in putting > watermark detectors into every ADC chip! They don't care about the ADC If they don't they are screwed. >

Re: FC: Hollywood wants to plug "analog hole," regulate A-D converters

2002-05-29 Thread Steve Schear
At 06:20 AM 5/30/2002 +0200, Nomen Nescio wrote: >Peter Trei writes: > > My mind has been boggled, my flabbers have been ghasted. > > > > In the name of protecting their business model, the MPAA > > proposes that every analog/digital (A/D) converter - one of > > the most basic of chips - be requir

Re: FC: Hollywood wants to plug "analog hole," regulate A-D converters

2002-05-29 Thread Nomen Nescio
Peter Trei writes: > My mind has been boggled, my flabbers have been ghasted. > > In the name of protecting their business model, the MPAA > proposes that every analog/digital (A/D) converter - one of > the most basic of chips - be required to check for US > government mandated copyright flags. Qu