Re: DOJ jails reporter, Ashcroft allows more journalist , subpoenas

2001-08-02 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Black Unicorn wrote: > Prosecutor: You retained copies of this document? > Witness: No. > Prosecutor: You have none of these documents in your possession or control? > Witness: No. > Prosecutor: Are you aware of any other copies of this document? > Witness: Yes. > Prosecu

Re: Spoilation, escrows, courts, pigs. Was: Re: DOJ jails reporter, Ashcroft allows more journalist subpoenas

2001-08-01 Thread jamesd
-- On 31 Jul 2001, at 12:22, Black Unicorn wrote: > Not being intimately familiar with the spec of freenet I can't > really comment on that aspect or what a court will consider > "impossible." What will not amuse a court is the appearance of > an ex ante concealment or disclosure in anticipat

RE: Spoliation, escrows, courts, pigs. Was: Re: DOJ jails reporter, Ashcroft allows more journalist subpoenas

2001-08-01 Thread Aimee Farr
J jails > reporter, Ashcroft allows more journalist subpoenas > > > Unicorn wrote: > > > Not being intimately familiar with the spec of freenet I can't > > really comment > > on that aspect or what a court will consider "impossible." > What will

Re: DOJ jails reporter, Ashcroft allows more journalist subpoenas

2001-08-01 Thread jamesd
-- Dark Unicorn: > > Not a particularly useful answer and not necessarily justifiable on the > > part of the court. I think eventually a better answer would have to be > > produced, one that justified the censorship. We're back to what > > originally struck me as odd, and wrong, about this ite

Re: Spoilation, escrows, courts, pigs. Was: Re: DOJ jails reporter, Ashcroft allows more journalist subpoenas

2001-07-31 Thread Dr. Evil
> There are legitimate purposes for escrowing it on the Isle of Man > over and above keeping it out of a court's hands. The key is to > have _some_ leg to stand on when asked "if not trying to thwart the > authority of this court, why did you do that." Good answers might > sound like: "I wanted

Spoilation, escrows, courts, pigs. Was: Re: DOJ jails reporter, Ashcroft allows more journalist subpoenas

2001-07-31 Thread Black Unicorn
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 9:55 AM Subject: Re: DOJ jails reporter, Ashcroft allows more journalist subpoenas > On 30 Jul 2001, at 14:38, Black Unicorn wrote: > > > Prosecutor: You retained

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2001-07-31 Thread Black Unicorn
- Original Message - From: "Trei, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Black Unicorn'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 1:54 PM Subject: RE: DOJ jails

Re: DOJ jails reporter, Ashcroft allows more journalist subpoenas

2001-07-30 Thread mmotyka
Black Unicorn wrote: > > Looks like a reporter ( or anyone else for that matter ) should keep > > well hidden backups of their notes and work so that they can comply with > > Napolean complexes, fishing expeditions and spin control operations and > > not lose their life's work. > > No. Well hi

Re: DOJ jails reporter, Ashcroft allows more journalist subpoenas

2001-07-30 Thread Black Unicorn
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Black Unicorn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 1:47 PM Subject: Re: DOJ jails reporter, Ashcroft allows more journalist subpoenas > Black

RE: DOJ jails reporter, Ashcroft allows more journalist subpoenas

2001-07-30 Thread Trei, Peter
> -- > From: Black Unicorn[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > > Declan, > > The larger problem notwithstanding there's at least one little bit of > > language in this piece that is odd : > > > > "He said the government is > >seeking all of Legg

Re: DOJ jails reporter, Ashcroft allows more journalist subpoenas

2001-07-30 Thread Black Unicorn
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 1:23 PM Subject: Re: DOJ jails reporter, Ashcroft allows more journalist subpoenas > Declan, > > The larger problem notwithstanding there&#

Re: DOJ jails reporter, Ashcroft allows more journalist subpoenas

2001-07-30 Thread mmotyka
Declan, The larger problem notwithstanding there's at least one little bit of language in this piece that is odd : "He said the government is seeking all of Leggett's material, including all originals and copies." Even if we make the extreme assumption that there is some pressing

DOJ jails reporter, Ashcroft allows more journalist subpoenas

2001-07-29 Thread Declan McCullagh
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