On Sat, 21 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>In principle, it should be possible to write a stego program that is
>undetectable, provided your enemy has no better models of noise sources in
>the medium than you have. As far as I know, no one has done this.
This is a point I raised on a waterma
Ah, but your assumptions are not quite right. See my Wired News
article on steganalysis.
-Declan
On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 09:34:15AM -0700, David Honig wrote:
> At 08:07 AM 7/18/01 -0700, Ray Dillinger wrote:
> >I keep looking at the whole stego thing. But the basic problem
> >remains the same
At 06:56 PM 7/18/01 +0200, Eugene Leitl wrote:
>On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, David Honig wrote:
>
>> 1. encrypted data is indisttinguishable from uniformly distributed noise
>
>Yes, but which natural data sources have that signature?
None. I was glossing over how you should measure your (e.g., camera's)
18, 2001 12:34 PM
> To: Ray Dillinger
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: DMCA has pushed me to my limit.
>
>
>
> At 08:07 AM 7/18/01 -0700, Ray Dillinger wrote:
> >I keep looking at the whole stego thing. But the basic problem
> >remains the same. Stego relies
On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, David Honig wrote:
> 1. encrypted data is indisttinguishable from uniformly distributed noise
Yes, but which natural data sources have that signature?
> 2. LSBs in digitizations of analog signals are noise
Not uniformly distributed noise, unfortunately. Perhaps somebody sh
At 08:07 AM 7/18/01 -0700, Ray Dillinger wrote:
>I keep looking at the whole stego thing. But the basic problem
>remains the same. Stego relies on the *method* being secret,
>which stands in stark contrast to kerchoff's principle. I mean,
>sure, you can stego encrypted stuff so nobody who re
On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 10:18:42AM -0700, Black Unicorn wrote:
> When a foreign national can be arrested for a bit of coding which was
> developed (I assume) outside the US and never, by his actions (I assume)
> hit US soil well it really is time for the DMCA to go.
Without quibbling with your se
On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 07:07:48PM -0700, Morlock Elloi wrote:
> Buy some ad space in papers and get the message out. Running decent-size ads
> will take many K$. Maybe if a number of contributors insist on this EFF would
> coordinate it ? How does one round up contributors in cpunkish environment
On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 10:21:44AM -0400, Trei, Peter wrote:
> Well, if Pinochet can be arrested in London, on the request of a
> French (or was it Spanish?) judge, over acts allegedly
> committed in Chile, I'd say yes.
>
> and don't forget the Norwegian who was arrested in Oslo for
> the
--
On 18 Jul 2001, at 0:55, Sampo Syreeni wrote:
> On a more general level, is US law to be construed as granting
> personal jurisdiction over anyone on the US soil, regardless of
> where the actual crime was committed? I.e., if I do something
> wrong according to the Code,
> I'd better stay t
At 12:55 AM +0300 7/18/01, Sampo Syreeni wrote:
>On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Black Unicorn wrote:
>
>>When a foreign national can be arrested for a bit of coding which was
>>developed (I assume) outside the US and never, by his actions (I assume)
>>hit US soil well it really is time for the DMCA to go.
>
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Cypherpunks do something?
>
> Maybe start with the basics: a WWW site.
> Doesn't Choate have a couple registered names for our use?
I have cpunks.org registered for Austin Cypherpunks use...do you live in
Austin? Is there anyone in Austin working
> Declan McCullagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>FBI agents have arrested a Russian programmer for giving
>away software that removes the restrictions on encrypted
>Adobe Acrobat files.
The Big O wrote:
>
> "Nuts!"
Black Unicorn with the opalesque spike wrote:
#
#Ok. That's
Ok. That's pretty much my limit.
When a foreign national can be arrested for a bit of coding which was
developed (I assume) outside the US and never, by his actions (I assume)
hit US soil well it really is time for the DMCA to go.
I'd be interested in talking to cypherpunks who actually would l
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