Re: Brands' private credentials

2004-05-11 Thread Ben Laurie
Adam Back wrote: On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 02:42:04AM +, Jason Holt wrote: Another approach to hiding membership is one of the techniques proposed for non-transferable signatures, where you use construct: RSA-sig_A(x),RSA-sig_B(y) and verification is x xor y = hash(message). Where the sender is p

Re: more hiddencredentials comments (Re: Brands' private credentials)

2004-05-10 Thread Adam Back
Gap may be I'm misunderstanding something about the HC approach. We have: P = (P1 or P2) is encoded HC_E(R,p) = {HC_E(R,P1),HC_E(R,P2)} so one problem is marking, the server sends you different R values: {HC_E(R,P1),HC_E(R',P2)} so you described one way to fix that by using symmetri

Re: more hiddencredentials comments (Re: Brands' private credentials)

2004-05-10 Thread Jason Holt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 10 May 2004, Adam Back wrote: > OK that sounds like it should work. Another approach that occurs is > you could just take the plaintext, and encrypt it for the other > attributes (which you don't have)? It's usually not too challenging > to

more hiddencredentials comments (Re: Brands' private credentials)

2004-05-10 Thread Adam Back
On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 08:02:12PM +, Jason Holt wrote: > Adam Back wrote: > > [...] However the server could mark the encrypted values by encoding > > different challenge response values in each of them, right? > > Yep, that'd be a problem in that case. In the most recent (unpublished) > p

Re: Brands' private credentials

2004-05-10 Thread Jason Holt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 10 May 2004, Adam Back wrote: > After that I was presuming you use a signature to convince the server > that you are authorised. Your comment however was that this would > necessarily leak to the server whether you were a doctor or an AIDs >

Re: Brands' private credentials

2004-05-10 Thread Adam Back
On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 02:42:04AM +, Jason Holt wrote: > > However can't one achieve the same thing with encryption: eg an SSL > > connection and conventional authentication? > > How would you use SSL to prove fulfillment without revealing how? > You could get the CA to issue you a "patient

Re: Brands' private credentials

2004-05-09 Thread Jason Holt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 9 May 2004, Adam Back wrote: > and seeing that it is a completely different proposal essentially > being an application of IBE, and extension of the idea that one has > multiple "identities" encoding attributes. (The usual attribute this > a

Re: Brands' private credentials

2004-05-09 Thread Adam Back
[copied to cpunks as cryptography seems to have a multi-week lag these days]. OK, now having read: > http://isrl.cs.byu.edu/HiddenCredentials.html > http://isrl.cs.byu.edu/pubs/wpes03.pdf and seeing that it is a completely different proposal essentially being an application of IBE, and extension