RE: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Jonathan Wienke
irst put in the player. Fortunately, most DVD's don't have this annoying "feature". - -Original Message- From: Trei, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 12:29 PM To: 'Tim May' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Advert

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Harmon Seaver
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Some discs disable the FF button and the menu button. You can still skip > the ads, but you have to skip each ad individually (with the chapter skip > button). I recall usenet discussions citing 6 - 8 ads at the beginning of > some discs. I've not had that

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 11:06:05AM -0700, Tim May wrote: > (Ads could be tied-in to the content, with some light crypto or copright > protection. A "circumvention" of this liight crypto could be a DMCA > violation. I would not be surprised to see this already impicated in the > DVD cases: that

Re: lynx for mirroring? (Re: Advertisements on Web Pages)

2001-08-08 Thread georgemw
On 8 Aug 2001, at 12:41, Subcommander Bob wrote: > Declan once gave a lynx command line that would download a website > (recursing) less the images, of course. I found it didn't preserve > file names or directory hierarchy, so it was less useful for mirroring > sites I anticipated being oppress

lynx for mirroring? (Re: Advertisements on Web Pages)

2001-08-08 Thread Subcommander Bob
At 10:41 PM 8/7/01 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> >(I'm surprised no one has urged me to use Lynx. Is it still being used?) >> >> For very limited values of "used", yes. Declan once gave a lynx command line that would download a website (recursing) less the images, of course. I found it d

Re: lynx for mirroring? (Re: Advertisements on Web Pages)

2001-08-08 Thread Gabriel Rocha
,[ On Wed, Aug 08, at 12:41PM, Subcommander Bob wrote: ]-- | Can anyone recommend a better tool? | For wintel? `[ End Quote ]--- It isnt for wintel proper, but you can run wget under cygwin (cygwin.com) and use wget -m which will give you a full mirror

RE: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Trei, Peter
> Tim May[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote > > On Wednesday, August 8, 2001, at 11:44 AM, Ray Dillinger wrote: > > On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote: > >> (Ads could be tied-in to the content, with some light crypto or > >> copright > >> protection. A "circumvention" of this liight crypto could be

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, August 8, 2001, at 11:44 AM, Ray Dillinger wrote: > > > On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote: > > >> (Ads could be tied-in to the content, with some light crypto or >> copright >> protection. A "circumvention" of this liight crypto could be a DMCA >> violation. I would not be surprise

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote: >(Ads could be tied-in to the content, with some light crypto or copright >protection. A "circumvention" of this liight crypto could be a DMCA >violation. I would not be surprised to see this already impicated in the >DVD cases: that 5 minute period of trail

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, August 8, 2001, at 10:39 AM, Ray Dillinger wrote: > > > On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote: > >> To all who have contributed ideas about turning off Java, blah blah, l >> wasn't really _complaining_ about my personal situation. I was noting >> the bizarre world of online advertising

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote: >(I'm surprised no one has urged me to use Lynx. Is it still being used?) Oh yes. If you can't use it with Lynx, it's probably low on content. Though I've been meaning to change to one of the www modes on top of Emacs. I hear some of them handle Unicode better

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote: >To all who have contributed ideas about turning off Java, blah blah, l >wasn't really _complaining_ about my personal situation. I was noting >the bizarre world of online advertising in which the right third of a >page is filled with ads, the top third is fi

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote: >( I expect 98% of the readers here have no idea what a "Symbolics" is or >was.) Heh. I would cheerfully commit a felony or two to get my hands on a Symbolics Ivory chip fabbed using modern technology and running at a GHz or so. When I was a student, we ha

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote: >(I'm surprised no one has urged me to use Lynx. Is it still being used?) Some of us still use it, but we tend not to recommend it to anyone - it has become fairly obscure and, to be honest, lots of webpages suck pretty hard when viewed through lynx. I find

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Petro
At 9:22 AM -0700 8/7/01, Tim May wrote: > >(I'm surprised no one has urged me to use Lynx. Is it still being used?) For very limited values of "used", yes. Not often, and not by many, but I'd bet it will build under OS X. -- http://www.apa.org/journals/psp/psp7761121.html It i

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Eugene Leitl
On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Ray Dillinger wrote: > Some of us still use it, but we tend not to recommend it to > anyone - it has become fairly obscure and, to be honest, lots > of webpages suck pretty hard when viewed through lynx. I Have you tried using Links? > find it particularly handy though as a

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread David Honig
At 02:10 PM 8/7/01 -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: > At some point, junkbuster or equivalent will just become a must >have. > Of course the top two browser builders won't build it into their next releases...

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread David Honig
At 12:34 PM 8/7/01 -0700, Tim May wrote: > >Interestingly, about 15-20 years ago there was much talk of the "3M" >machine: a megapixel display, a megabyte of memory, and a million >instructions per second. I heard about it as the 1-M machine, with same qualifications. It had to have virtual me

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread measl
On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Petro wrote: > >(I'm surprised no one has urged me to use Lynx. Is it still being used?) > > For very limited values of "used", yes. > > Not often, and not by many, but I'd bet it will build under OS X. More than you may think. I personally use it, and I know

Safeweb [was: RE: Advertisements on Web Pages]

2001-08-08 Thread Trei, Peter
> From: Tim May[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Just a note about what's happening with Web advertising. > > Went to a site, www.imdb.com, to check something about a film. Up popped > a doubleclick.net ad. In front of the main page, obscuring it. I clicked > the close box. Up popped a _differen

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Riad S. Wahby
Ray Dillinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some of us still use it, but we tend not to recommend it to > anyone - it has become fairly obscure and, to be honest, lots > of webpages suck pretty hard when viewed through lynx. I > find it particularly handy though as a route around some > firewa

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, August 7, 2001, at 12:10 PM, Harmon Seaver wrote: > Tim May wrote: > >> My friends and I have been joking for a while about how we'll need to >> buy 22-inch LCD monitors, like the Apple Cinema Display, just to be >> able >> to see content that isn't advertising. > > You mean

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Eric Murray
On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 11:51:57AM -0400, Riad S. Wahby wrote: > Ray Dillinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Simple answer: turn off javascript and java. It is generally not > > used except to make ads more annoying. > > Certain browsers (*ahem* Konqueror) allow you to just disable the > windo

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, August 7, 2001, at 08:57 AM, Eric Murray wrote: > On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 11:51:57AM -0400, Riad S. Wahby wrote: >> Ray Dillinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Simple answer: turn off javascript and java. It is generally not >>> used except to make ads more annoying. >> >> Certain b

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread David Honig
At 08:17 AM 8/7/01 -0700, Ray Dillinger wrote: >Simple answer: turn off javascript and java. It is generally not >used except to make ads more annoying. If your browser allows it There are some sites which are unnavigable without javascript and less frequently Java. And some with no indicati

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Harmon Seaver
Tim May wrote: > My friends and I have been joking for a while about how we'll need to > buy 22-inch LCD monitors, like the Apple Cinema Display, just to be able > to see content that isn't advertising. You mean you don't have a 21" monitor already? I was wondering at what resolution you

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-07 Thread Riad S. Wahby
Ray Dillinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Simple answer: turn off javascript and java. It is generally not > used except to make ads more annoying. Certain browsers (*ahem* Konqueror) allow you to just disable the window.open() method. That way, if a site requires JavaScript (some do---even s

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-07 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote: >Just a note about what's happening with Web advertising. > >Went to a site, www.imdb.com, to check something about a film. Up popped >a doubleclick.net ad. In front of the main page, obscuring it. I clicked >the close box. Up popped a _different_ ad. I clicke

Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-06 Thread Tim May
Just a note about what's happening with Web advertising. Went to a site, www.imdb.com, to check something about a film. Up popped a doubleclick.net ad. In front of the main page, obscuring it. I clicked the close box. Up popped a _different_ ad. I clicked the close box. Yep, up popped a third