Re: AP Al Qaeda

2001-12-13 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, gabriel rosenkoetter wrote: > Killing one person, especially a public official, pisses a whole > bunch of people off. Those people have a tendency to come find > their buddy's killer. > > No kind of real or threatened assassination can weaken a government > in which a major

Re: AP Al Qaeda

2001-12-13 Thread gabriel rosenkoetter
eers mattd, apologies to the unamused on cypherpunks... -- gabriel rosenkoetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 From: gabriel rosenkoetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: mattd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bcc: Subject: Re: AP Al Qaeda In-Reply-To

Re: AP Al Qaeda

2001-12-13 Thread mattd
>>No, no. AP is funny because it's impracticeable. One does not find an assassin exclusively by tracing who paid him to kill. One can (and often does) find him because he makes a mistake in the act of commiting the crime. Which, if I'm >>reading my history right, is what's hampered the noisy

Re: AP Al Qaeda

2001-12-12 Thread gabriel rosenkoetter
On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 09:50:24PM +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote: > > Just keep in mind that AP is a joke among knowledgeable > > technologists for its unworkability, but a wonderful joke > > on those who believe it's anything more than a taunt. > Total bullshit again. Sure, AP requires anonymous dig

Re: : CDR: Re: AP Al Qaeda

2001-12-12 Thread Declan McCullagh
Something on which Jim Choate and I can agree. :) --Declan On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 07:31:21AM -0600, Jim Choate wrote: > Get your damn quoting right, Declan didn't right the '> >' delimited text > as you indicate. >

Re: AP Al Qaeda, the wrath of choate!

2001-12-12 Thread mattd
Get your damn quoting right, Declan didn't right the '> >' delimited text as you indicate. Get this right dickhead.Im here to annoy you,declan and any other cypherpunk I feel like.Your fancypants,the lotta youse. (cept peter trei)

Re: : CDR: Re: AP Al Qaeda

2001-12-12 Thread Jim Choate
Get your damn quoting right, Declan didn't right the '> >' delimited text as you indicate. On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, mattd wrote: > > So the property you own is really(!) owned by the state and you pay > > the initial payments for title transfer and the taxes during occupation > > (sounds like rent

Re: AP Al Qaeda

2001-12-11 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 08:20:25PM +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote: > Taxes (much higher than before due to the greater expenses of operating > the government) could be charged based on imputed property values > depending on zip code and acreage. Everyone in a particular neighborhood > would be charged

Re: AP Al Qaeda

2001-12-11 Thread Nomen Nescio
Danny Popkin writes: > > Rather, the problem with AP is that it is mob rule at its worst. > > Worse than the secret ballot? Much worse. With a secret ballot you need to get a majority to support any particular position. That's a significant hurdle to overcome. But with AP any small group of peo

Re: CDR: Re: AP Al Qaeda

2001-12-11 Thread Jim Choate
On 11 Dec 2001, D.Popkin wrote: > > Rather, the problem with AP is that it is mob rule at its worst. > > Worse than the secret ballot? AP *IS* a form of secret ballot. -- Day by day the Penguins are makin

Re: AP Al Qaeda

2001-12-11 Thread D.Popkin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Nomen Nescio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > John Young writes, regarding Assassination Politics: > > Just keep in mind that AP is a joke among knowledgeable > > technologists for its unworkability, but a wonderful joke > > on those who believe it's anything mor

Re: AP Al Qaeda

2001-12-10 Thread John Young
Whatever promise AP has for its avowed purpose, so far it has helped to jail a couple of guys and smear a few more while boosting the careers of several alleged targets. Talking about AP in public is still going on, here and elsewhere. Disagreeing about it too. Take it seriously or as a joke, tak

Re: AP Al Qaeda

2001-12-10 Thread Nomen Nescio
John Young writes, regarding Assassination Politics: > AP is a touchy topic for Cypherpunks, whoever they may > be. It is likely the USA is attempting to link AP to Cypherpunks > for prosecution, so not many will want to talk about the > topic. Cypherpunks pioneered the use of encryption and ano

AP Al Qaeda

2001-12-10 Thread John Young
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:46:06 -0800 Subject: Media Question : : : Hello Mr. Young. My name is Chris Anderson, I am an Associate Producer for a cable television network called TechTV. TechTV is a national cable station specializing in computer