Faustine wrote:
> I have a hunch the DoD would like nothing better than to see
> leakees go totally
> apeshit on leakers as "disinformation spreaders." Do their dirty
> work, save
> them the trouble: sounds perfectly in line with Rumsfeld's doctrinal
> emphasis on "deterrence by denial" to me. Go
This was a spoof. A few other suspects in my inbox under names here.
~Aimee
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Aimee Farr
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 10:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Homeland
Faustine wrote:
> But what about when the unlucky charmers find they're actually the victims
> of a deceivers-deceiving-the-deceivers-deceiving-the-deceivers
> kind of thing.
> What shows that the snowers know they've slowly been snowed? Bet
> it keeps a lot
> of people awake at night, that one.
And I thought you were from Texas. ;)
Hold it up to a mirror.
(Well... it does make a point.)
~Aimee
> > Recursive is just writing backwards.
>
> No it doesn't, it means 'write again'; as in over and over.
>
>
> --
>
Faustine:
> Aimee wrote:
>
> > > To wit, no two people can safely tell the same lie to the same person.
>
> Bah. I say it depends entirely on what the lie is, who's being
> lied to, and how
> confident and artistic the confidence artists are.
You're probably right.
> Choate:
> > Actually they c
> > To wit, no two people can safely tell the same lie to the same person.
Choate:
> Actually they can, only one (or both, if we allow 3 or more agents, only
> one is required to 'know' the lie) of the people must believe it is the
> truth.
Well, I doan' kno' nuttin' 'bout no agents. That fact h
A "signal" sometimes means
1. Wohlstetter's analogy (signals of Pear Harbor attack -- a generalization,
the indicators are themselves messages transmitted by signals)
2. Inference drawn from indicators
3. Indicators, or indicators embedded in messages
4. The means of transmission
5. Messages
I meant to say "a" stale.
But wait, that's not all
Tim wrote:
> Don't hire a single lawyer. As soon as even a single lawyer is hired,
> you're lost. Because it means you're thinking in terms of using the
> legal system, of striking business deals with those whose products you
> napster, and
unsubscribe
I knowI know *laughter*
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Aimee Farr
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 11:51 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:
>
>
> unsubscribe
> Aimee wrote:
>
> >Should you ever rely on another man for your life, and he relies
> on you for
> >the same, perhaps you will know what "the urge to command, and
> the will to
> >obey" is really about.
> If you had ever been in a situation in which another man had your
> life in his
> hands--an
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61716-2002Feb24.html
...
Gee, think leakers felt their credibility threatened by the Pentagon disinfo
cloud, fearing that they could no longer covertly influence the press and
the American public?
The irony of D.C.
~Aimee
> "The only thing more wicked than the urge to command is the will
> to obey."
Should you ever rely on another man for your life, and he relies on you for
the same, perhaps you will know what "the urge to command, and the will to
obey" is really about.
Men that become mountains refuse no ground
As you seek to undermine the security and integrity of the U.S. Government,
perhaps that is a subject worthy of your attention. Where Japan couldn't,
China can.
You insult the sacrifices of the greatest of men -- from both our countries.
This is not to make light of your forces, which are some o
> > "Sometimes chance and happenstance play an
> > incredible part in an incredible story," Bussey says.
>
> Bullshit.
>
> ~Aimee
Al-Q must have taken a relationship-selling course. (The Psychology of
Relationship Selling : Developing Repeat and Referral Business; Relationship
Selling: The Key to
> http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/
> this_just_in/documents/02093041.htm
>
> The Boston Phoenix, January 3-10, 2002
>
> How the Journal got Al Qaeda's computers
>
> By Dan Kennedy
>
> This past Monday's Wall Street Journal led with an
> astounding story about a personal computer
[offlist comment redacted]
Do you suppose the Pentagon foresaw the inevitable backlash?
*gasp!*
Which gave them an opportunity to state their no-deception policy,
instituting trust in their message?
*gasp!*
Razzle-dazzle. Your chip is to provide more correct and timely outside
information tha
Discussing the challenges of perception management by antagonists:
http://call.army.mil/fmso/fmsopubs/issues/manipult.htm
International Conflict Controllers: Manipulators or Manipulated?
Mr. Timothy L. Thomas
Foreign Military Studies Office, Fort Leavenworth, KS.
Great bloodshedding that "never
> http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=138963&group=webcast
> "...approximately three percent
> of Americans now feel that armed struggle against the state would be
> justified.
> That may not sound like a lot when viewed on its own but a look at the
> historical evidence provides some i
Ken Brown:
> Also US forces (in the guise of military advisors to the Chinese,
> "Flying Tigers" and so on) had been involved on a small scale in the war
> against Japan for some years.
Yes, but they couldn't get them to fight. Kai-shek was just interested in
fighting Mao, rather than cleaning h
Choate:
> > Faustine isn't coy, she's humble.
>
> And you're easily fooled.
Yes, but I can't help but be impressed by even the facade of intellectual
honesty in public discourse, especially one involving a professional cadre
which has diverted their professional energies into political means to
Choate:
> In my opinion it is possible to spend too much time reading others works
> and not enough time thinking about them and ones own views. The reality
> is that if a single one of these papers had any real application to the
> real world problems they'd stand out light a nova in a eclipse.
> Gil Hamilton wrote:
>
> > Hmm. "They" presumably refers to "Japan" despite the disagreement in
> > number. Still, I don't recall Japan having "walked over France," so
> > I can't be sure - maybe you mean the Axis powers?.
>
> She could be referring to the Japanese takeover of French Indochina.
Lucky wrote:
> What I fail to understand is where the news are in this article. Yes,
> the US government, as all governments, is engaging in disinformation,
> deception, and lies. It is called PSYOPS. And yes, PSYOPS has been
> conducted and will continue to be conducted against both friendly and
Faustine:
> Aimee wrote:
>
> >Then came Kai-shek v. Mao and a war with Japan.
> >A century of bloodshed caused by outside influence.
>
>
> Bah. I don't think it's going out on a limb to lay responsibility
> for a vastly
> enormous amount of bloodshed squarely at the feet of Mao and Madame Mao
Choate:
Continuing the."no wonder they hate us so much" thread.
> " http://slashdot.org/yro/02/02/19/0122238.shtml?tid=153 "
This is mostly off the top of my head, so I invite others to add
insight/correct mistakes:
Riding the opium and human trade, missionaries and Western influence gave
> This experiment demonstrates that people will screw each other
> irrespective of the government involvement. So, if the people are going
> to lie, cheat, steal, etc. w/o government of what possible use is CACL
> philosophy? It doesn't reduce anything, if anything it increases the
> potential for
Choate:
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2002, Trei, Peter wrote:
>
> > Carl von Clausewitz was a Prussian militarist and intellectual around
> > 1800. He is mainly remembered for his book 'On War' which was the
> > first Western theoretical treatise on war and warfare.
>
> Re: Jomini
Jomini? Who is talking abo
> So Ms. Farr will be glad to know, that in order to protect us,
> her government will consider you a potential terrorist if someone
> you exchanged (encrypted) mail with bought the pellets in the
> same week in which you bought teddy bears.
Don't tell me how I think or feel, what a cheap shot.
Leitl:
I wrote:
> > "War is an act of force to compel our enemy to do our will." Where a
> > man's family is concerned, words count.
>
> WTF is this supposed to mean?
See Clausewitz.
> > I'm fairly certain you just crossed the Rubicon.
>
> You make even less sense than proffr.
See 49 BC Jul
> I think between Thomas Schelling's "Strategy of Conflict" and
> Herman Kahn's
> "On Thermonuclear War" you can find pretty much everything you
> need to know.
> I'll bet both of you would find a lot to enjoy in them.
>
> "They seemed so very cautious and correct, these deadly words. Soft, quiet
There are MILLIONS of people that stand between that boy and evil of any
sort, and support his Daddy. He might read this someday, and he'll probably
come to the conclusion that his father was a tolerant man, despite
perceptions to the contrary.
Jim Bell was arrested for stalking "protected person
> Mr. Soze:
> This is not a people's war. If anything its a war against
> democracy and an attempt to discipline elected officials into
> obeying their sworn oaths. You know, the ones they rarely obey
> and are almost never called to account.
It would be a people's war, and it would have the o
> > Tim May wrote:
> >
> >> Recently arrived here from Choate Prime, Jei the Finn sends us 12 (that
> >> I counted) forwarded news items on Saturday. I guess he thinks we need
> >> Yet Another News Forwarding Service.
> >
> > "The Finn" is a foreign principal propagandist. If it continues in
> > d
> Seems to me, with full respect for your offline credentials, that
> not much of what you offer here is applicable.
OkayOK!
Some of you have probably heard of the acronym RMA, for Revolution in
Military Affairs. The other side of the coin is a rapid succession of RRAs -
Revolutions in Revol
It was a joke, James. "CAACA?" C'mon
~Aimee
> When the US introduced legislation against the communist
> movement, that movement was for the most part centrally
> directed from Moscow, and had as its objective the
> destruction of the USA and its conquest and occupation by the
> Soviet army
Tim May wrote:
> Recently arrived here from Choate Prime, Jei the Finn sends us 12 (that
> I counted) forwarded news items on Saturday. I guess he thinks we need
> Yet Another News Forwarding Service.
"The Finn" is a foreign principal propagandist. If it continues in
disseminating propaganda, we
Somebody wrote:
> I, in particular (and many other Cpunk Movement members) do not
> consider People That Control Armed Men to be "us" and will not identify
their snitching
> capabilities with my well-being.
So "Cypherpunks" is a political movement, then? You are cohesive, and, as
frequently poin
> Aimee Farr wrote:
> >> >[1] http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2002/01/15/014.html
> >>
> >> The Moscow Times? Now that is funny, since the claim was about
> >> this list being a vector for anti-intelligence propaganda and
> >> Russian
Tim:
> But I must say that we are a pale imitation of our role in 1993-95, when
> we published the RC-R cipher, blew the whistle on the NSA's proposal to
> have Jim Bidzos "run over" in his parking lot, provided the Stealth
> fighter blueprints, published the home address of notorious killer a
> >[1] http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2002/01/15/014.html
>
> The Moscow Times? Now that is funny, since the claim was about
> this list being a vector for anti-intelligence propaganda and
> Russian threats.
http://www.russianstory.com
Extortion is the polite term, it was just an easy
See also: http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/01/19/25868.html
..."What else were they expecting from the Americans? That the plane will be
totally clean, like the new-born child? If they did such a stupid thing
ordered a plane from the Americans, then they will get a flying spy center,
to carry
Anonymous wrote:
> Agent Farr wrote:
I'm sure you think that's really funny.
> >This place has turned into a disease vector for anti-intelligence
> >propaganda. Some of you are "carriers."
> >
> >Governments opposed to the re-invigoration of our intelligence
> capabilities
> >and American spher
This place has turned into a disease vector for anti-intelligence
propaganda. Some of you are "carriers."
Governments opposed to the re-invigoration of our intelligence capabilities
and American spheres of influence are planting some of this crap. The
Russians made some direct threats of "relativ
> And your insinuation that we are using mattd, for example, as a cat's
> paw for "violent political action" (?) while "obtaining plausible
> deniabilty" is pernicious.
It wasn't an insinuation, just saying that it happens. I would not like to
see this forum further mischaracterized as being asso
When you paint targets on people, other individuals may cause them harm,
seeking some measure of your acceptance. Some here might have actual
"followers," not fans or confederates-in-cause. Some individuals here, and
you even as a group don't have to "ask" for somebody to be hurt, just imply
that
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of mattd
> I'm being
> followed so close my laptop was stolen.
That's not close enough.
~Aimee
I'm so damn mad, I can't even subscribe to a mailing list.
subscribe cypherpunks
er 17, 2001 1:02 PM
> To: Declan McCullagh; Aimee Farr
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Monkeywrenching
>
>
> --
> On 16 Nov 2001, at 16:50, Aimee Farr wrote:
> > I meant it in the sense that it sounds like they are
> > talking about criminal defense la
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > I suggest if you find expression of such logical sentiment
> > objectionable that you leave the list.
I wrote:
> Can't we just object?
>
> "I object."
>
> Said objection
94th Cong. 1st Sess.
H.R. 1603
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
January 17, 1975
Mr. Drinan introduced the following bill; which was referred the Committee
on the Judiciary.
A BILL
To amend certain sections (authorizing wiretapping and electronic
surveillance) of title 18 of the United States Cod
sterday; this is a real flyer. I'll send something
> Politechwards later on today about it.
>
> -Declan
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 12:00:50PM -0600, Aimee Farr wrote:
> > > "A good example of monkeywrenching can be found at the article posted
&g
Faustine wrote:
> I bet a person could really learn a lot by spending some quality time
> with Google, taking careful notes on the differences between posts you
ignore,
> ones you're content to dismiss with frosty condescension, what really
seems to
> bother the hell out of you, ones that should
More like corruption...the intimidation and suppression of moderate
viewpoints through public ridicule, an ideological culling based on fears of
association, and then a real or perceived compromise from which there is no
return?
Some would profess American Constitutional ideals, but use methods t
See United States v. King, 335 F.Supp 523 (1971). See also the original DOJ
manual and related amendments.
If you can, pick up a copy of Eavesdropping On Trial, '74. It's an
insightful and easy read with good historical footnotes. It's an odd book,
in that it has gained in relevancy through the y
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I suggest if you find expression of such logical sentiment
> objectionable that you leave the list.
Can't we just object?
"I object."
Said objection is now a part of the record
George:
> On 24 Sep 2001, at 17:49, Robert wrote:
> > It is not a crime for an agency of another country to eavesdrop
> on you as
> > long as they are physically located outside the U.S. Similarly,
> it is not
> > illegal for a US agency to intercept messages in another
> country, as long as
> > t
Under the California statute, a conversation in which the parties have no
expectation that the discussion would not be disclosed to others is not
confidential. Cal. Penal Code. Sect.632(a). "Confidentiality" has been
construed in California to mean "a reasonable expectation that the content
of the
Mr. Keyser-Soze of the hushmail jacket:
> Although I'm not into anthropomorphics I'd guess my sign would be
> either mongoose (fast and perisistent and loves to kill snakes)
> or weasel (agile, sly, cunning and sneaky and loves to kill rats)
Want to catch some REALLY big fish?
Dangle your ego
Indeed it may have to be fought through the crosshairs...
Time to show Ellison who the real threats to his personal safety are...
Its time to water the tree...
Only cowards worry about possible punishment. If this be terrorism, make the
most of it!
It seems quite a few have been making payment
> On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, Aimee Farr wrote:
>
> >
> > And this, from Choate
> >
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psychohistory/message/2810
>
>
>
> What ARE you smoking? I did't write
My introductory post (below) was based on a WMD domestic terrorism scenario,
to predict surveillance end-states.
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 12:40:22 -0600
From: Aimee Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Crypto McCarthyism ...thoughts, gentlemen?
o What do you think abou
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Jim Choate
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 12:27 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Cooksey: Expect racial profiling
>
>
> Somebody should impeach this asshole...
>
> http://w
The conversation elsewhere is out of control...even "negative recognition"
in addition to a National Biometric-ID. The fear is that its an "appearance
measure." My response on another list was fairly long-winded, but it did
include the following:
(1) The pretexter. Mr. Terrorist -- he's a suspect
"Citizen Q" posted a news clip, which included:
> Part of Ashcroft's terrorism package includes a request to allow
> the FBI to seek wiretapping orders for a suspect instead of a
> telephone.
> That would mean law enforcement agents would be able to tap any
> phone a suspect uses, ins
Pst, C'mere
Let's build a BIIIG terrorist icon on the eve of a possibly long
engagement, and put lots of little people in it.
Don't present targets when civilian lives go in them.
And, you can't fight fires in those things.
~Aimee
> >From: "Baker, Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "'Declan McCullagh'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >cc: "Albertazzie, Sally" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >"Baker, Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >
> >Declan,
> >
> >I ignored the first two points because I
[Any previous discussion of this? Summary/Conclusions?]
Sec. 2339A. (FOOTNOTE 1) Providing material support to terrorists
(a) Offense. - Whoever, within the United States, provides material support
or resources or conceals or disguises the nature, location, source, or
ownership of material suppo
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of citizenQ
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 5:54 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: No Subject
>
>
> Reading the discussion I see that the amendment calls for
> inclusion of 'terrorist activies' into
Tim said:
> On Friday, September 14, 2001, at 04:16 PM, Aimee Farr wrote:
>
> > [Any previous discussion of this? Summary/Conclusions?]
> >
> > Sec. 2339A. (FOOTNOTE 1) Providing material support to terrorists
> >
> > (a) Offense. - Whoever, within
See: "trap calling cards" or "skip calling cards."
Yes, you can do it yourself. Without passing on the legality of this, YES,
it is a sunlighted investigatory tactic. Contact a telco investigator in
your jurisdiction. A skilled pretexter, and a trap line, can work better in
some cases.
"See a la
I don't know why Tim makes me out to be such a bitch. I'm pro-crypto and
pro-privacy.
Anonymity and encryption can assist with intelligence collection efforts,
and grease new intelligence flows. An OSINT "Intellagora," a WhiteHat
BlackNet, is zero-risk/zero-contact, and might assist in counterter
Mr. Ziplip wrote:
> Tim -
>
> Behavioral psychologists will tell you that the best way to
> extinguish an undesirable behavior is to IGNORE it.
>
> If Farr's posturings and baitings are truly to be made
> ineffective, the best course of action amongst the cpunks who
> care is to killfile the post
Amateur radio was the first casualty after Pearl Harbor. Some criticize the
action now, of course.
~Aimee
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Declan McCullagh
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:59 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subjec
"Anonymizer.com Launches 'Operation Safe Investigation' to
Help Law Enforcement and Journalism Professionals Maintain
Anonymity and Safety Online"
PRNewswire (09/06/01)
NLECTC Law Enforcement & Corrections Technology News Summary
Thursday, September 13, 2001
...
Anonymizer.com just debuted its "Op
For the sick people in here that like to call for TNA's (target name and
address) for judicial officials etc.
--
NLECTC Law Enforcement & Corrections Technology News Summary
Thursday, September 13, 2001
--
"Technological Advances in Assessing Threats to Judicial
Officials"
Sheriff (08/01) Vol. 53
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Tim May
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:52 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Cypherpunk Threat Analysis
>
>
> On Thursday, September 13, 2001, at 08:39 AM,
> [ I wonder if these attacks are over, and what kind of legislation
> we're likely
> to see in response... --Declan]
Perspective:
"How ironic, that this is all happening under the shadow of the Statue of
Liberty. Some of us may not have been born to see Pearl Harbor in 1941, but
I can assure yo
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Eric Cordian
> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 6:05 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Moral Crypto isn't wuss-ninnie.
>
>
> Aimee writes:
>
> > I realize Tim's position, and I respect his r
"A potential balance between national security and science may lie in an
agreement to include in the peer review process (prior to the start of
research and prior to the publication) the question of potential harm to the
nation I believe it is necessary before significant harm does occur
which
Are you talking about Gatti?
~Aimee
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Steve Schear
> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 1:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Official Anonymizing
>
>
> At 01:42 PM 9/4/2001 -0700, John Young
> Aimee now thinks that I, Tim, have "committed suicide."
Nope.
Sen gene sarho`s musun?! = Are you drunk again?
~Aimee
Bear wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, Aimee Farr wrote:
>
> >It wasn't serious, Mike!
>
> Yes. It is serious. It is, in fact, dead serious. Starting with the
> "Sweet spot" discussion, and well into the pissing contest that you
> and Tim seem to have started
Tim:
> On Tuesday, August 28, 2001, at 05:52 PM, Aimee Farr wrote:
>
> >> Didn't you already sign on? Surely through your careful study of the
> >> archives you know that one of the founding documents for this list is
> >> Tim's "Crypto Ana
> >> Aimee now thinks that I, Tim, have "committed suicide."
> >
> > Nope.
> >
> > Sen gene sarho`s musun?! = Are you drunk again?
> >
> >
>
> A strange question from one who rambles incoherently and talks about
> "going out to talk to the snails."
>
> Doing more searches, I find you also asking l
> Didn't you already sign on? Surely through your careful study of the
> archives you know that one of the founding documents for this list is
> Tim's "Crypto Anarchist Manifesto". It's practically the charter.
> See, for example,
> http://www.eff.org/Privacy/Crypto_misc/cryptoanarchist.manifest
Mike said:
> > It remains a challenge to identify groups that are both (A) wealthy, (B)
> > in need of anonymity technologies, and (C) morally acceptable
> to support.
> > Freedom fighters don't fit all that well, in today's world.
> >
> Corporate Executives A, B, sort of C
I have reason to thin
Mike:
> > Just out of curiosity, how many of you would sign on to a
> project like that?
> > Would you please post a statement of interest, and detail how you would
> > contribute to such a project?
> >
> > ~Aimee
> >
> Have the GRU list-watchers ( your handlers! ) demonstrated their power
> ad
GH wrote:
> Nomen Nescio wrote:
> [snip]
> >The answers it gives depends on the questions you ask. If your questions
> >are simple enough (untraceability good?) then your chart will answer
> >them. If your questions are more interesting (what technologies can
> >be practically implemented and m
Reese wrote:
> >This is not legal advice. It's an obituary. :)
>
> Owning a vehicle that will exceed the speed limit is not a crime.
> Driving a vehicle that will exceed the speed limit is not a crime.
> Exceeding the speed limit is a crime and is a ticketable offense,
> at the least.
>
> Mechan
> You complained a few weeks ago about the timing of the "help me make
> bombz" posts...as if we have any choice about when AOL-accounted narcs
> post such requests.
I don't think I complained about their timing, I think I complained about
their very existence.
> And now, bizarrely, you think th
> Not so bright, though. And you've outed yourself by not-so-subtle hints
> about the SS "prime rib."
When I said "prime rib," I meant PRIME RIB. Our little hamburger joint has
taken on greater culinary responsibility.
~Aimee
> Your role as an agent provocateur here is noted.
Your role as a son-uv-a-bitch to me is noted.
Trying to keep people out of trouble is a "provocateur?" Gee, sorry to
dampen your conspiracy.
I posted Regan because it was directly relevant to this discussion, and it
makes a couple of points --
Tim May:
> So I guess my candidate submission for the P.E.T. workshop might not be
> well-received: "BlackNet; Case History of a Practically Untraceable
> System for Buying and Selling Corporate and National Secrets.
No, you want E.E.T. -- "Espionage-enhancing Technologies."
Some of you need a
> Despite frequently urging newcomers to "read the archives--or at least
> use some search engines!," nitwits like Aimee are only just now figuring
> out what was crystal clear in 1992-3.
The EEA wasn't passed until 96. I failed to mention Title 18 United States
Code, Section(s) 794(c).
"Agents
I don't always monitor folders, for me a CC is a courtesy.
~Aimee
> 1. Email sent individually to someone reaches them faster than
> when replying to the list. I've often had half-day lag times in
> the past with cypherpunks.
>
> 2. Email sent individually to someone will reach them when the
>
> On Tuesday, August 21, 2001, at 10:45 PM, Aimee Farr wrote:
>
> >> On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Aimee Farr wrote:
> >>> spotlighted a tree around here, you would think it was Secret Squirrel
> >>> mating season. (If you know anything about raccoons and
&g
> At 06:02 PM 8/20/01 -0700, John Young wrote:
> >Come to think of it Aimee's reminds of Jeff, and the timing
> >is pretty good for another raid.
> >
> >Hark, wipe your disks.
Mors et vita in manibus lingue.
This terroristic defamation isn't funny, considering where I reside. If you
spotlighted
An Metet:
> It's also rather interesting that Aimee is objecting to
> people "cowering behind remailers". On the cypherpunk list?
> On the contrary, we should all be using remailers. Someone
> seriously does need to start a node which only accepts posts
> from remailers. I'm beginning to stro
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