Re: Carnivore - Matt Blaze testimony

2000-07-25 Thread Agent Bronson
> > The 3rd amendment argument is a losing argument. The purpose of that > > amendment is to prevent repeating something that happened during the > > Revolutionary War. It pertains to soldiers shacking up in civilian's > > houses, not to a civilian law-enforcement organization hooking a > computer

Re: Carnivore - Matt Blaze testimony

2000-07-25 Thread Agent Bronson
> >I don't know about your local cops, but mine are definately not capable > of > >protecting me from this kind of stuff. Someone recently posted that > >"Terrorism is the future of warfare." That's _very_ spooky, especially > if > >we are morally ambiguous enough to condone terrorism as a form of

Re: Carnivore - Matt Blaze testimony

2000-07-25 Thread Agent Bronson
> > I don't know the specific laws, but this is something the spooks > > have always done anyway. Like Donald Kerr said (if FBI spooks like > > him and me can be trusted), the FBI routinely orders ISPs to do this > > surveillance themselves anyway, when the ISP has the resources to do > > it.

Re: Carnivore - Matt Blaze testimony

2000-07-25 Thread Agent Bronson
> >The 3rd amendment argument is a losing argument. The purpose of that > >amendment is to prevent repeating something that happened during the > >Revolutionary War. It pertains to soldiers shacking up in civilian's > >houses, not to a civilian law-enforcement organization hooking a > computer > >

Re: Carnivore - Matt Blaze testimony

2000-07-25 Thread Agent Bronson
> t 01:58 AM 7/25/2000 -0400, John Bronson wrote: > > Just watched this hearing. I just subscribed to this list, so while > > I don't want to piss anyone off, I question what seems to be a > > knee-jerk reaction against Carnivore. In theory, I positively agree > > with the need for such a tool

Re: Carnivore - Matt Blaze testimony

2000-07-25 Thread Agent Bronson
> > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get Yahoo! Mail ^V Free email you can access from anywhere! > > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > Fucking government troll! Does anyone else think it's odd that Agent > Bronson here is coming from rocketmail.com, yet it seems yahoo > automatic