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> That of course brings us full circle: how many fuels can produce a blast
> which results in a 2+ mile mushroom? That's a *lot* of explosive force.
Blast sets off the forest fire, fire makes the smoke. Not a problem.
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On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 05:07:55PM -0500, J.A. Terranson wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Sep 2004, Eugen Leitl wrote:
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Variola wrote...
If it *were* a nuke, it would be easy to detect --from Vera
gamma-ray satellites staring at the earth to optical sensors
(there's a characteristic nonlinear time-course of optical emissions)
to fallout monitors, ground and plane based.
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2004, Bill Stewart wrote:
> When the Israeli / South African nuke test was done,
> they didn't talk about it, they pretended it hadn't happened,
> and the US government, at least publicly, has continued to
> pretend that we don't know that Israel has weapons of Mass Destruction.
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
> At 12:01 AM 9/12/04 -0500, J.A. Terranson wrote:
> >"No big deal"? Who are they kidding?
>
> JAT, any large explosion will create a mushroom cloud. Its the
> blast wave reflecting off the ground that lifts the thing, plus the
> buoyancy of the h
On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 12:01:29AM -0500, J.A. Terranson wrote:
> "No big deal"? Who are they kidding?
Has it occured to anyone this might be a covert US (or Chinese
or ) operation to destroy the PRK nuke test setup, say with cruise
missiles, stealth B2 bombers, or a infiltrated sab
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> http://www.muenster.org/uiw/fach/chemie/material/gif/oppau.jpg
Wow! I had no idea ammonium nitrate (ANFO for all intents and purposes,
yes?) could produce that kind of result! How much was there?
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2004, Thomas Shaddack wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Sep 2004, J.A. Terranson wrote:
>
> > "No big deal"? Who are they kidding?
>
> A 2-mile wide cloud is WAY too big to be caused by a single explosion,
> unless REALLY big.
Exactly. And there aren't many things *that* big.
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At 11:45 AM 9/12/2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
Time will tell, and it certainly could have been a nuke (they have
the SNMs), but if you do it, you talk about it, much like
the Indi/Pakis did. And you can't hide a surface burst, or
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At 09:53 AM 9/12/04 +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 07:50:35AM +0200, Thomas Shaddack wrote:
>> On Sun, 12 Sep 2004, J.A. Terranson wrote:
>>
>> > "No big deal"? Who are they kidding?
>>
>> A 2-mile wide cloud is WAY too big to be caused by a single
explosion,
>> unless REALLY b
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