Re: current status of cypherpunks, tim may, etc. ??

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Re: BBC: File-sharing to bypass censorship

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Re: On Needing Killing

2004-04-11 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 05:38 AM 4/11/04 -0400, An Metet wrote: >> And the responsibles need killing. > >No, they don't. > >There are two alternative solutions to the problem of restrictions on >information flow, or more generally restrictions on any sort of voluntary >and cooperative activity. One is to use force to

Re: On Needing Killing

2004-04-11 Thread Riad S. Wahby
An Metet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This stuff should be Cypherpunks 101. ...along with Assassination Politics. I've always taken "X needs killing" to be a statement to the effect that same had earned himself an AP-style contract, if only such a thing existed. While your point is good, inasmuc

Re: current status of cypherpunks, tim may, etc. ??

2004-04-11 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004, Riad S. Wahby wrote: > The part I find unfortunate is that, along with his less tactful > points, gone are his insightful ones. This is the point I was trying to make (by reposting his latest "insight"). We all have those ghosts we'd like to see dead. Hell, I've got more th

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Re: Hierarchy, Force Monopoly, and Geodesic Societies - the internet is a tree.

2004-04-11 Thread Bill Stewart
> It's a tree No, it's not a tree >>> I thought we were sort of an autonomous collective! >> Watery marketers lobbing Powerpoints is no basis for a form of architecture > Network engineers spend a lot of time making sure that their networks, and > the Internet, are not trees. Multiple pe

Re: Spy agency launches recruiting campaign

2004-04-11 Thread Bill Stewart
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2004-04-11 Thread An Metet
Major Variola writes: > I don't know about your anecdote, but Mr. May's original point > was that the law *requires* companies to forget. Which is > of course an illegitimate intrusion of the state into private affairs. > > And the responsibles need killing. No, they don't. There are two altern

Re: Hierarchy, Force Monopoly, and Geodesic Societies - the internet is a tree.

2004-04-11 Thread Jim Dixon
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004, sunder wrote: > > Yes. I know what a tree is, and I am quite familiar with structure of > > the Internet. These very pretty pictures certainly look like the Internet > > I am familiar with, but don't resemble trees. > > It is a tree. I'll give you a hint. Think of this: > >

Re: current status of cypherpunks, tim may, etc. ??

2004-04-11 Thread Riad S. Wahby
"J.A. Terranson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unfortunate? I don't know. Tim's gone a little whacko over the last few > years, and it doesn't look like his meds are doing crap for him: > [snip] It's true, Tim does seem to harbor an awful lot of anger towards certain groups, but while I don't agr

Re: current status of cypherpunks, tim may, etc. ??

2004-04-11 Thread Riad S. Wahby
Joe Schmoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. any comments on this level of spam and bounces, > etc., I saw from minder - does al-qeada use a more > LNE-like processor ? Well, as the list maintainer I see a lot of bounces &c, but (unless something is seriously wrong with my setup) no one else does.

Re: current status of cypherpunks, tim may, etc. ??

2004-04-11 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004, Riad S. Wahby wrote: > > 2. Was tim may being filtered from minder, or is he > > just gone now ? > > I talked to him a little bit after lne went down; he said he wasn't > interested in posting to the list any more. Quite unfortunate, in my > view. Apparently he's still to b