Re: Firm invites experts to punch holes in ballot software

2004-04-08 Thread R. Hirschfeld
> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 15:42:47 -0400 > From: Ian Grigg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > It seems to me that the requirement for after-the-vote > verification ("to prove your vote was counted") clashes > rather directly with the requirement to protect voters > from coercion ("I can't prove I voted in a p

Re: voting

2004-04-08 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 11:16 PM 4/8/04 +0200, privacy.at Anonymous Remailer wrote: >In the second place, it fails for elections with more than two parties >running. The casual reference above to representatives "on each >side" betrays this error. Poorly funded third parties cannot provide >representatives as easily

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Re: voting

2004-04-08 Thread privacy.at Anonymous Remailer
Perry Metzger writes, on his cryptography list: > By the way, I should mention that an important part of such a system > is the principle that representatives from the candidates on each side > get to oversee the entire process, assuring that the ballot boxes > start empty and stay untampered wit

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2004-04-08 Thread R. A. Hettinga
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Re: Hierarchy, Force Monopoly, and Geodesic Societies

2004-04-08 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 11:28 AM -0700 4/8/04, Major Variola (ret) wrote: >Geodesic means shortest path, and you'll note if you play with >tracert that the shortest path (as seen on Earth's surface) is rarely >taken. Measure the path in time? :-) Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer

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2004-04-08 Thread R. A. Hettinga
As someone who was a Gerard O'Neill fan long before he even knew who Turing/Von Neumann/etc., were, of course, I was talking about the latter. Cheers, RAH --- Von Neumann machine >From Wikipedia, the free e

Re: Research Shows Explosives Remain Part Of Human Hair

2004-04-08 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 02:06 PM 4/8/04 -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote: >At 9:14 PM -0700 4/7/04, Steve Schear wrote: >>Nah, just a plastic shower cap during explosive handling. > >On your arms? Legs? Hands? > >Arabs in bunny-suits. Whadda concept. Disposable clothes don't have to be bunny suits. Latex dishwashing glov

Re: Hierarchy, Force Monopoly, and Geodesic Societies

2004-04-08 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 01:56 PM 4/8/04 -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote: >[Nanotechology at least holds out the possibility of making Von >Neumann machines, that is, switches which make copies of themselves, You mean Johnny's *replicators*, a vN machine is just one with a changable program store. But you mentioned Jared

Re: Research Shows Explosives Remain Part Of Human Hair

2004-04-08 Thread Steve Schear
At 10:08 AM 4/8/2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote: And McVeigh used ammonium nitrate which wasn't tested, and as a highly soluable (in fact deliquescent) inorganic it probably won't persist like a nitrated organic. Also common as dirt in agville. He also added nitromethane to the mix, obtained throu

Re: Research Shows Explosives Remain Part Of Human Hair

2004-04-08 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 9:14 PM -0700 4/7/04, Steve Schear wrote: >Nah, just a plastic shower cap during explosive handling. On your arms? Legs? Hands? Arabs in bunny-suits. Whadda concept. See Mr. Mathers, below... Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation

Hierarchy, Force Monopoly, and Geodesic Societies (Re: [irtheory] Re: Anarchy and State Behaviors)

2004-04-08 Thread R. A. Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 4:41 AM + 4/8/04, Daniel Pineu wrote: >I am very curious about what are your views about the twin concept >of hierarchy Hierarchy emerges as a result of the economics of information switching. When you have expensive nodes (brains) and inexpen

Re: Gmail as Blacknet

2004-04-08 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 05:26 AM 4/8/04 -0400, An Metet wrote: >The privacy news has been full of fuss and bluster lately about >Google's proposed Gmail service. >Cypherpunks have two somewhat contradictory positions on the issue. >First, as lovers of privacy, they will share the concerns in the letter >and they woul

RE: Research Shows Explosives Remain Part Of Human Hair

2004-04-08 Thread Trei, Peter
> Major Variola (ret)[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > At 11:19 AM 4/8/04 +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote: > >On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 10:03:13PM -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote: > >> Depilatory becomes a new standard accessory for the > well-...um...-dressed > >> terrorist... > > > >Ammonium nitrate is an ionic

Re: Research Shows Explosives Remain Part Of Human Hair

2004-04-08 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 09:14 PM 4/7/04 -0700, Steve Schear wrote: >At 07:03 PM 4/7/2004, R. A. Hettinga wrote: >>Depilatory becomes a new standard accessory for the well-...um...-dressed >>terrorist... > >Nah, just a plastic shower cap during explosive handling. Yep. Everyone who's serious -from Dr. Kazcynzski to th

Re: Research Shows Explosives Remain Part Of Human Hair

2004-04-08 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 11:19 AM 4/8/04 +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote: >On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 10:03:13PM -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote: >> Depilatory becomes a new standard accessory for the well-...um...-dressed >> terrorist... > >Ammonium nitrate is an ionic solid. Diesel fuel or equivalent heavy oil >fraction don't show

RE: Gmail as Blacknet

2004-04-08 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, Tyler Durden wrote: > Poo poo. The difference between a potential blacknet and Gmail is that > there's little doubt that google will cough up the true names of > objectionable posters, if and when anyone looking even remotely > authoritative/governmental comes pounding on thei

Re: Firm invites experts to punch holes in ballot software

2004-04-08 Thread Paul Zuefeldt
I wasn't suggesting the authorities have access to your vote. The role of the authorities is to provide the polling/vote-verification facility and to enforce physical security. You would keep your receipt private, using it for two purposes: 1. To unlock a voter registration record to be used by th

Fun with Lawyers

2004-04-08 Thread R. A. Hettinga
What's annoying is that, given the kind of specious settlements in this field and other cases, the ambulance chaser in question could probably afford it. :-). Cheers, RAH --- begin forwarded text Subject: Fun with Lawyers Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 08:59:21 -0400 From: Somebody To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Firm invites experts to punch holes in ballot software

2004-04-08 Thread Ian Grigg
Brian McGroarty wrote: On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 03:42:47PM -0400, Ian Grigg wrote: It seems to me that the requirement for after-the-vote verification ("to prove your vote was counted") clashes rather directly with the requirement to protect voters from coercion ("I can't prove I voted in a particu

RE: Gmail as Blacknet

2004-04-08 Thread Tyler Durden
"Ironically, some of the features of Gmail bear resemblance to BlackNet. In particular, its claimed policy of retaining email indefinitely, even after the recipient has stopped using the account, is reminiscent of BlackNet's function as a data haven, as well as other Cypherpunk projects like the Et

Re: Firm invites experts to punch holes in ballot software

2004-04-08 Thread Brian McGroarty
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 03:42:47PM -0400, Ian Grigg wrote: > Trei, Peter wrote: > >Frankly, the whole online-verification step seems like an > >unneccesary complication. > > It seems to me that the requirement for after-the-vote > verification ("to prove your vote was counted") clashes > rather di

Re: Hard drives leak from Polish Ministry of Foreign Affairs

2004-04-08 Thread Marcel Popescu
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Hard drives leak from Polish Ministry of Foreign Affairs

2004-04-08 Thread "Paweł Krawczyk (IPSec.PL)"
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Re: Research Shows Explosives Remain Part Of Human Hair

2004-04-08 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 10:03:13PM -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote: > Depilatory becomes a new standard accessory for the well-...um...-dressed > terrorist... Ammonium nitrate is an ionic solid. Diesel fuel or equivalent heavy oil fraction don't show up as something unusual. Ditto inorganic detonator

Gmail as Blacknet

2004-04-08 Thread An Metet
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