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2003-03-20 Thread professor rat
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2003-03-20 Thread professor rat
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2003-03-20 Thread professor rat
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2003-03-20 Thread professor rat
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2003-03-20 Thread professor rat
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Re: Libertarian Party expresses "concern" over war -- but does not

2003-03-20 Thread Declan McCullagh
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2003-03-20 Thread John Kelsey
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Re: Libertarian Party expresses "concern" over war -- but does not

2003-03-20 Thread Eric Cordian
Declan writes: > Eric's statement was hyperbole, designed to provoke. My own view is > that the Libertarian Party is being unfortunately wishy-washy when it > comes to the war on Iraq. We've had this discussion many times before on this list. People who know nothing about Libertarians see a word

Re: Libertarian Party expresses "concern" over war -- but does not

2003-03-20 Thread Declan McCullagh
Eric's statement was hyperbole, designed to provoke. My own view is that the Libertarian Party is being unfortunately wishy-washy when it comes to the war on Iraq. It correctly said that troops should not be blamed for politicians' choices, but it pointedly declined to say: "This is an unjust war.

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Re: Libertarian Party expresses "concern" over war -- but does not

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2003-03-20 Thread Anonymous
On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 01:42:16PM -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: > > > What bullshit. You just suck right up to those war criminals don't you? > Do you work for them too? > > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 11:18:09AM -0600, Keith Ray wrote: > Nicely argued, Mr. Seaver. I've never seen such a we

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Re: What shall we do with a bad government...

2003-03-20 Thread Bill Stewart
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Re: Libertarian Party expresses "concern" over war -- but does not

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2003-03-20 Thread Keith Ray
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Re: Fwd: Informer alert: War begins in Iraq

2003-03-20 Thread Bill Frantz
At 6:36 AM -0800 3/20/03, Ken Brown wrote: >Only alternative to that that can preserve an Iraqi state is US (or just >possibly UK - after all we've had a lot of practice) direct rule for >/years/ We don't just dfeat Iraq, we conquer it. Bush still claims >the USA is not an imperialist power. Th

Re: What shall we do with a bad government...

2003-03-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 10:43:43AM -0800, Bill Stewart wrote: > > During Gulf War I, one of the occasional things yelled at protesters was > "Get a Job". Well I *had* a job, thank you, that paid a lot better than > the corporate welfare agency (Army base) we were protesting in front of. > Of cour

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2003-03-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
What bullshit. You just suck right up to those war criminals don't you? Do you work for them too? On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 11:18:09AM -0600, Keith Ray wrote: > Quoting Thomas Shaddack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Interesting point of observation: According to our laws, approving of a > > crime

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RE: Fwd: Informer alert: War begins in Iraq

2003-03-20 Thread Mike Rosing
On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, Trei, Peter wrote: > There are other factors that the Turks have on their minds, aside from > the US and NATO. Turkey is anxious to join the European Union, and > has been cleaning up its human rights act to gain acceptance. > Turkey recently lifted martial law in the Kurdish

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RE: Fwd: Informer alert: War begins in Iraq

2003-03-20 Thread Trei, Peter
> Mike Rosing[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, Ken Brown wrote: > > > 3) what about the Kurds? What about the Kurds? Does the US force them > > to rejoin Iraq? Does the US continue to deny them Kirkuk and other > > cities of their homeland? Does the US allow Turkish troops to in

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