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> Seems to me that most of our economy is arguably illegal.
Fine. Document that, please. Show me statistics. Extraordinary claims
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>> $4 trillion worth of foreign exchan
R. A. Hettinga wrote:
>. . .
>Right, though I'm sure you're wishing it wasn't. Again, crime,
>illegal markets if you will are piddly bits of pocket fluff in the
>global economy. $4 trillion worth of foreign exchange alone happened
>today. Criminal activity is in the tens of billions, max, a year.
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On 13 May 2002 at 18:27, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
> And, thus, nobody will ever use the stuff. The market for
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>
> You mentioned this for the fourth time this month.
>
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>
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> market attentio
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On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 01:20:35PM -0700, Morlock Elloi wrote:
> > Go after those who already _know_ they need untraceability. Go after
> > niches where VALUE >> COST. Don't try to argue that the world needs to
> > replace its multi-billion dollar infrastructure of
>
> The question is - are t
> > More to the point, you don't *live* unless you're selling
something,
>
> What the hell does *live* mean? There are quite a few folks on this
planet
> who 'sell' nothing. They grow their own food, they build their own
house.
> No stores, no electricity, no telephones, no air
> conditioning.
>I used a VISA debit card to buy a $25,000 Ford Explorer.
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At 1:20 PM -0700 on 5/13/02, Morlock Elloi wrote:
>> Go after those who already _know_ they need untraceability. Go
>> after niches where VALUE >> COST. Don't try to argue that the
>> world needs to replace its multi-billion dollar infrastructure of
>
> The
On Mon, 13 May 2002, Steve Schear wrote:
> I suspect that one of the things the major labels really fear is the
> increasing market share of the independents. Two decades ago the
> independents had a palter 10-15% penetration. Now I've heard it greater
> than 25%. This is really what's on
On Sun, 12 May 2002, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
> Think about what you just said, there. Don't you realize that 1:M
> *always* starts 1:1? It's the same kind of
> "evil-bourgeois-businessman" hierarchical command-economy argument
> that aristocrats and peasants throw around. It's amazing how this
> k
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On Sun, 12 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Huge numbers of people use modular arithmetic to secure their
> credit card numbers, their transactions with overseas banks in tax
> havens, their transfers of e-gold. They do not to understand
> modular arithmetic. They just understand that third
On Sun, 12 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On 12 May 2002 at 1:31, Morlock Elloi wrote:
> > This is the prime reason why digital cash didn't happen - users
> > don't really care to replace *one* middlemen (government with a
> > printing press and shitloads of armed men protecting the
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"Trei, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Bill: you might want to look at: www.siswg.org, which is looking at just
> this
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>
> > The IEEE Technical Committee on Information Assurance has
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On Sun, 12 May 2002, David Howe wrote:
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On Sun, 12 May 2002, Ian Grigg wrote:
> The problem with paying for anything over $100 is
> having the money with you at that time.
Most such purchases are not 'off the cuff'. They are planned.
> Most purchases are done at some random future time,
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|
| > Mental constructs like this one, complicated schemes that require knowledge of
| > modular aritmetic to understand, is why this will not happen.
| >
| > Whatever aspires to replace paper cash for purposes
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> > The reason we have ready availability of credit in the first place
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>
> I really wonder what component of this market is actually payment
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At 2:22 PM -0700 on 5/12/02, Morlock Elloi wrote:
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