Re: Clearing the buffer after quitting LESS, MAN, VIM etc.

2013-12-31 Thread Bengt Larsson
Dawid Ferenczy wrote: >The only difference (or one of few) was in the display size. The old laptop >has a screen resolution of 1366 x 768 pixels, while the new one has >1920 x 1080. And I'm using the whole screen for the terminal window. It's >really strange, but if the terminal window height is gr

Re: Updated: xorg-server-1.14.5-1

2013-12-31 Thread Franz Fehringer
Hi John, It seems xwinclip is still needed, what are the perspectives about this? Best regards Franz Am 30.12.2013 22:56, schrieb Jon TURNEY: > > The following packages have been updated in the Cygwin distribution: > > *** xorg-server-*1.14.5-1 > > These packages contain XWin and the other

Re: Updated: xorg-server-1.14.5-1

2013-12-31 Thread Jon TURNEY
On 31/12/2013 10:19, Franz Fehringer wrote: > Hi John, Firstly, do not send me personal email. Please read http://cygwin.com/problems.html#personal-email, particularly the section starting "Shouldn't I just send email to straight to a Cygwin developer or package maintainer?" > It seems xwinclip

Re: Updated: xorg-server-1.14.5-1

2013-12-31 Thread Franz Fehringer
Hi John, I will not send you further personal email. What i really meant was that i read in one of your announcements about clipboard integration not fully working with the 64bit X server. The reason why i came up with xwinclip is that i was under the (possibly wrong) impression that xwinclip reap

Re: Updated: xorg-server-1.14.5-1

2013-12-31 Thread Jon TURNEY
On 31/12/2013 14:31, Franz Fehringer wrote: > I will not send you further personal email. > What i really meant was that i read in one of your announcements about > clipboard integration not fully working with the 64bit X server. > The reason why i came up with xwinclip is that i was under the (pos

Re: Updated: xorg-server-1.14.5-1

2013-12-31 Thread Franz Fehringer
Thanks Am 31.12.2013 16:03, schrieb Jon TURNEY: > On 31/12/2013 14:31, Franz Fehringer wrote: >> I will not send you further personal email. >> What i really meant was that i read in one of your announcements about >> clipboard integration not fully working with the 64bit X server. >> The reason w

Re: Clearing the buffer after quitting LESS, MAN, VIM etc.

2013-12-31 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 10:50:29AM +0100, Bengt Larsson wrote: >Dawid Ferenczy wrote: >>The only difference (or one of few) was in the display size. The old laptop >>has a screen resolution of 1366 x 768 pixels, while the new one has >>1920 x 1080. And I'm using the whole screen for the terminal wi

Ok, then

2013-12-31 Thread Jonathan Martin
Continued from "a ream of questions." I pretty much already said I don't know what I'm doing, but that I had some ideas that might be interesting, for me this is not about being right but being curious and asking questions, it may surprise you that any viciousness presented is also welcome as l

Re: Ok, then

2013-12-31 Thread Eliot Moss
Dear Jonathan -- I think it would help greatly, and perhaps moderate the tone on both sides, if you could say what you think/thought cygwin is and what you think/thought it is for. It seems to me that the bad feelings, or at least sharp tone, back and forth may be rooted in a misunderstanding on

Re: Ok, then

2013-12-31 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:56:37PM -0800, Jonathan Martin wrote: >If anything the only thing I am interested in through this entire >inquiry is cutting through some of this acceptable obfuscation. Andrew Schulman's advice to you still holds: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2013-12/msg00396.html Plea

Re: Ok, then

2013-12-31 Thread Jonathan Martin
This is more philosophic than technical. I would like to put together a tutorial that groups unix command line tools according to complexity so that the easiest and most essential tools are presented first and the more complex tools are stated later, along with a short description that would c

Re: Ok, then

2013-12-31 Thread Eliot Moss
My suggestion would be to take a look at some of the many books that try to introduce Unix and bash to new users and see how they have approached a good / logical order of presentation. cygwin itself is perhaps more directed at experienced users -- or in any case, it is making no particular attem

Re: Ok, then

2013-12-31 Thread Jonathan Martin
FANTASTIC! On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 5:20 PM, Eliot Moss wrote: My suggestion would be to take a look at some of the many books that try to introduce Unix and bash to new users and see how they have approached a good / logical order of presentation. cygwin itself is perhaps more directed

Re: Clearing the buffer after quitting LESS, MAN, VIM etc.

2013-12-31 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 01:58:59PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: >On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 10:50:29AM +0100, Bengt Larsson wrote: >>Dawid Ferenczy wrote: >>>The only difference (or one of few) was in the display size. The old laptop >>>has a screen resolution of 1366 x 768 pixels, while the new o

Re: Ok, then

2013-12-31 Thread LMH
These are good guides for learning something about shell scripting, http://linuxcommand.org/ http://www.howtogeek.com/67469/ This is also good, but more extensive and focused on bash, http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/ One of the nicest things about learning to use cygwin and the

Re: Clearing the buffer after quitting LESS, MAN, VIM etc.

2013-12-31 Thread Balaji Venkataraman
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: > This bug should be fixed in today's snapshot (when it shows up): > > http://cygwin.com/snapshots/ I was seeing the same problem when using mintty (inside ConEmu). This seems to fix the problem. Thanks. -- Problem reports: http://

Re: Clearing the buffer after quitting LESS, MAN, VIM etc.

2013-12-31 Thread Bengt Larsson
Christopher Faylor wrote: > >This bug should be fixed in today's snapshot (when it shows up): > >http://cygwin.com/snapshots/ Works fine now. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html

Re: Clearing the buffer after quitting LESS, MAN, VIM etc.

2013-12-31 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 02:58:12PM -0800, Balaji Venkataraman wrote: >On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: > >> This bug should be fixed in today's snapshot (when it shows up): >> >> http://cygwin.com/snapshots/ > >I was seeing the same problem when using mintty (inside ConEmu

Re: Clearing the buffer after quitting LESS, MAN, VIM etc.

2013-12-31 Thread Balaji Venkataraman
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: > I don't understand how you could use mintty within conemu but thanks > for the confirmation. Not sure if this is what you meant to ask but all I have is a ConEmu task like this: "C:\cygwin\bin\mintty.exe C:\cygwin\bin\bash.exe --login -

Re: Clearing the buffer after quitting LESS, MAN, VIM etc.

2013-12-31 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 11:00:45PM -0800, Balaji Venkataraman wrote: >On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Christopher Faylor wrote: > >> I don't understand how you could use mintty within conemu but thanks >> for the confirmation. > >Not sure if this is what you meant to ask but all I have is a ConEmu