Linking (?) problem with ccze

2003-02-14 Thread jon ewing
Hello, Hope someone can help me with this. I've been trying to compile an app ccze (a log colorizer) under cygwin. The src is here: ftp://bonehunter.rulez.org/pub/ccze/stable/pre/ccze-0.1.190.tar.gz This compiles and runs fine under Debian linux and FreeBSD. It also compiles and runs fine under

Adding package ???

2003-02-14 Thread Guillaume Devoyon
Hi, How can i add the make command ?? When i have a look on the site, i can just see the place of the files but i'm not able to download the package.. Guillaume -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation:

Re: Adding package ???

2003-02-14 Thread Ronald Landheer-Cieslak
Use Setup, add the proper package and behold - you have whatever you just installed ;) Setup, of course, is found on the http://www.cygwin.com website with a very nice link shows as the Cygwin logo :) Ciao, rlc On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Guillaume Devoyon wrote: > How can i add the make command ??

Big Problem about keyboard/mapping

2003-02-14 Thread riku
ok. lets start by the system specs: i have here on my work several server, but now im talking about clients and one server. Computer1(clients): Cygwin newest version. running under windows2000 Computer2(servers): HP-UX 10.20 i gues is that version. but anyway HP-UX witch X So i need to make keybo

Big Problem about keyboard/mapping

2003-02-14 Thread riku
looks like my email domain was wrong. my mail domain is anyway titanix.net not titanix.d2g.com let's try again:) ok. lets start by the system specs: i have here on my work several server, but now im talking about clients and one server. Computer1(clients): Cygwin newest version. running under wi

Long File Names and 8.3

2003-02-14 Thread Dave Whiteley
Hello, I have a wierd problem. I have just installed a new version of cygwin. When running Bash:- I use the command "ls" It displays filenames in dos garbled 8.3 format with the ~tildes in. I do "whereis ls" It tells me /usr/bin/ls I use the command "/usr/bin/ls" and it displays files in th

chmod has no effect

2003-02-14 Thread Juraj . Lenharcik
Hi, I want to start a script via cygwin cron. On win XP everythink works fine. On Win NT I cannot change the chmod attributes of the script. So I get allways an error that the file was not found. /cygdrive/d/cronjobs/test.sh: not found d:/cronjobs/test.sh: not found On command line I can run

RE: Exim quick start guide/cookbook for cygwin?

2003-02-14 Thread Vince Hoffman
Personaly I just did as suggested in /usr/doc/Cygwin/exim-4.12-3.README which is working fine for me and has been for a while now. All windows users get mail fine, sending mail works fine etc etc. > -Original Message- > From: Chuck Ocheret [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 14 February 20

RE: Trouble installing Perl module under cygwin

2003-02-14 Thread Vince Hoffman
looks like a rebase issue, try a google on "cygwin rebase perl" and you should get some hints. > -Original Message- > From: Steve Kelem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 14 February 2003 05:48 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Trouble installing Perl module under cygwin > > > > > I u

Re: Linking (?) problem with ccze

2003-02-14 Thread jon ewing
Hi again, Sorry, should have probably added, I'm using pcre3.7 and gcc 3.2. I've included the entire output from the make process below: thanks jon. jon@shuttle (.../tmp/ccze-0.1.190) % make make -C doc all make[1]: Entering directory `/home/jon/tmp/ccze-0.1.190/doc' sed -e "s,@VERSION\@,0.1.1

Socket problem after fork()

2003-02-14 Thread Henry Richard
Hi all~ This time I upgrade my cygwin version to 1.3.20 and using gcc 3.2. The program I submit last time does work in this new environment. How ever, I have found that fork() can't be executed twice before closing the socket, otherwise the telnet client will be blocked unless giving it a ^].

FIONREAD (fillio.h)

2003-02-14 Thread gilles BOURGEOIS
I have an old source code using filio.h and FIOREAD: since this is not in the cygwin distribution, I DO need FION READ and FIONBIO definitions for my program. Does cywgin define this constant somewhere ? thanks GBO -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reportin

RE: Long File Names and 8.3

2003-02-14 Thread Vince Hoffman
try a "which ls" rather than whereis. also try "type -a ls" > -Original Message- > From: Dave Whiteley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 14 February 2003 10:16 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Long File Names and 8.3 > > > Hello, > > I have a wierd problem. > > I have just install

Problem compiling Perl Tk800.024

2003-02-14 Thread jon ewing
Hello, Has anyone successfully built Perl Tk800.024 under cygwin? I'm using Cygwin 1.3.20-1, gcc 3.2 and Perl 5.6.1 (Cygwin Perl, not ActiveState) and Cygwin XFree86 4.2.0-1/2/3 (according to the Cygwin setup.exe, some Xfree packages are 4.2.0-1, some are 4.2.0-2 and some 4.2.0-3 - I'm using the

Re: FIONREAD (fillio.h)

2003-02-14 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 11:41:30AM +0100, gilles BOURGEOIS wrote: > I have an old source code using filio.h and FIOREAD: since this is not in > the cygwin distribution, > I DO need FION READ and FIONBIO definitions for my program. > Does cywgin define this constant somewhere ? sys/socket.h Cori

Re: Socket problem after fork()

2003-02-14 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 10:33:23AM +, Henry Richard wrote: > This time I upgrade my cygwin version to 1.3.20 and using gcc 3.2. The > program I submit last time does work in this new environment. How ever, I > have found that fork() can't be executed twice before closing the socket, > otherw

cron and network drives

2003-02-14 Thread Juraj . Lenharcik
Hi, is there a possibility to reach the network drives with cron. My scripts work fine and can reach the network drives when I execute them from command line. With cron there is no effect. Is there a possibility to copy some file from cygwin to a network (windows) drive, without modifieing the

Re: NT wrappers

2003-02-14 Thread Luc Hermitte
Hello, * On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 06:45:28PM -0600, Robert Citek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is a script called "write" that allows me to use WordPad from within > Cygwin: > > #!/bin/bash > [ "$1" = "" ] && exec /cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/write > [ ! -f "$1" ] && touch "$1" > exec /

Re: Long File Names and 8.3

2003-02-14 Thread Dave Whiteley
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 10:39:47AM -, Vince Hoffman wrote: > try a "which ls" rather than whereis. > also try "type -a ls" > Ta. This does indicate the location of the "ls" it is really running. Now I have to work out why it is the wrong one! The PATH looks OK. I will collect some more ev

[ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated Cygwin Package: fetchmail-6.2.1-1

2003-02-14 Thread Jason Tishler
New News: === I have updated the version of fetchmail to 6.2.1-1. The tarballs should be available on a Cygwin mirror near you shortly. Old News: === Fetchmail is a remote mail retrieval and forwarding utility intended for use over on-demand TCP/IP links, like SLIP or PPP connections. F

Re: Adding package ???

2003-02-14 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 10:37:28AM +0100, Guillaume Devoyon wrote: >How can i add the make command ?? >When i have a look on the site, i can just see the place of the files but >i'm not able to download the package.. This is not hard. Go to http://cygwin.com/, click on "Install Cygwin Now!", Cli

Re: Big Problem about keyboard/mapping

2003-02-14 Thread Christopher Faylor
Go back to http://cygwin.com/lists.html and you'll see a specific mailing list for Cygwin/XFree86 questions. I am redirecting this message there. On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 11:57:04AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >ok. lets start by the system specs: >i have here on my work several server, but now

gcc doesn't work: "gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1': No such file or directory"

2003-02-14 Thread Niemann Hartmut
Hello! I installed the cygwin environment 1.3.20-1 including gcc on a Win2000 PC, and gcc does not work: $ gcc hello.c -lm gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1': No such file or directory $ gcc --version gcc (GCC) 3.2 20020927 (prerelease) Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

Re: Big Problem about keyboard/mapping

2003-02-14 Thread Christopher Faylor
Just in case someone is getting ready to send me chortling email telling me I got the mailing list address wrong below: please don't. I don't find chuckling observations about typos particularly funny or interesting. FYI. On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 08:24:02AM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: >Date:

Re: Exim quick start guide/cookbook for cygwin?

2003-02-14 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
El viernes 14 de febrero de 2003 a las 02:03:18, Chuck Ocheret escribió: > I need to get exim up and running in a big hurry under cygwin (or just > Windows). Can someone point me at a web page somewhere that has a good > cookbook to follow. Basically, I don't want to do anything really > stupid t

Re: Exim quick start guide/cookbook for cygwin?

2003-02-14 Thread Max Bowsher
Ismael Valladolid Torres wrote: > El viernes 14 de febrero de 2003 a las 02:03:18, Chuck Ocheret > escribió: >> I need to get exim up and running in a big hurry under cygwin (or >> just Windows). Can someone point me at a web page somewhere that >> has a good cookbook to follow. Basically, I don'

RE: Wget ignores robot.txt entry

2003-02-14 Thread Richard Campbell
>Wasn't a patch applied to CVS HEAD of the wget repos only a few weeks ago. >Thats what it looks like anyway. A cursory scan through the cvs web interface shows a patch for an ftp vulnerability applied 4 weeks ago by someone who does not appear on most of the rest of the latest changes; everythin

Re: Big Problem about keyboard/mapping

2003-02-14 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
El viernes 14 de febrero de 2003 a las 11:57:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: > So i need to make keyboard to work on hp-ux via x instance.. (this > charters äöå) cygwin as Xserver.. I run cygwin X server in my local machine. However all my work is done connecting to a Linux server with xdm configu

RE: [ITP] rebase

2003-02-14 Thread Ralf Habacker
> > > > > wasn't tight enough. > > > > > > My version: > > > > > > (char *)&relocp->SizeOfBlock < (char *)relocs + size > > > > > > seems to be. > > > > > > > What was the problem with this guard: > > To which guard are you referring? Mine or yours? > > > Does it not fix the last entry of a re

Re: Big Problem about keyboard/mapping

2003-02-14 Thread riku
no you don't understanded my question, read all before starting redirect. look my main question! MAIN QUESTION: Last choice is modifying cygwin itself keymap to layout FI. So how i change that on cygwin CONSOLE? sorry but i did not asken anything about X. i only writted like faq

Re: Wget ignores robot.txt entry

2003-02-14 Thread Max Bowsher
I just did some archive-diving, and it turns out that the situation is not as grim as I thought. It seems that Hrvoje Niksic will be returning at some point later this year. http://www.mail-archive.com/wget@sunsite.dk/msg04467.html http://www.mail-archive.com/wget@sunsite.dk/msg04555.html Max.

RE: Exim quick start guide/cookbook for cygwin?

2003-02-14 Thread Chuck Ocheret
Thanks for the pointers. I had found /usr/doc/exim-4.12/README but had not realized that there was a /usr/doc/Cygwin/exim-4.12-3.README which describes the cygwin specific config a bit. ~chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Max Bowsher

Re: gcc doesn't work: "gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1': No such file or directory"

2003-02-14 Thread Joe Buehler
Niemann Hartmut wrote: I installed the cygwin environment 1.3.20-1 including gcc on a Win2000 PC, and gcc does not work: $ gcc hello.c -lm gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1': No such file or directory I had a similar problem recently that was cured by a reinstall. -- Josef Bühler

Re: cron and network drives

2003-02-14 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc.)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, is there a possibility to reach the network drives with cron. My scripts work fine and can reach the network drives when I execute them from command line. With cron there is no effect. Is there a possibility to copy some file from cygwin to a network (windows) drive,

Re: [ITP] rebase

2003-02-14 Thread Jason Tishler
Ralf, On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 02:42:40PM +0100, Ralf Habacker wrote: > > I'm concerned that my guard might have an off-by-one error and miss > > the last entry. Is there an easy way to check this? > > I have compared this with, what objdump says and it seems there is no > difference. I did some

Bash shell

2003-02-14 Thread Tom Dager
Hello everyone! I am VERY new to Cygwin, though not to Linux. I use the bash shell a LOT and was wondering how do I get it so that I can copy and paste something from a windows window (such as an IP address) into the bash shell window. For example I want to use the whois functionality of the bas

installation missed ?

2003-02-14 Thread Guillaume Devoyon
Hi, i've done an new installation of cygwin in order to test my application.. I'v pasted from windows my installer package under the c:\cygwin\tmp. So wioth the bash console i'm able to see my installer package.. So i try to run it and i have error, effectivly it is in rw-r--r. I tried to do an chm

missed configuration ?

2003-02-14 Thread Guillaume Devoyon
Hi, i've done an new installation of cygwin in order to test my application.. I'v pasted from windows my installer package under the c:\cygwin\tmp. So wioth the bash console i'm able to see my installer package.. So i try to run it and i have error, effectivly it is in rw-r--r. I tried to do an chm

Re: Bash shell

2003-02-14 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc.)
Tom Dager wrote: Hello everyone! I am VERY new to Cygwin, though not to Linux. I use the bash shell a LOT and was wondering how do I get it so that I can copy and paste something from a windows window (such as an IP address) into the bash shell window. For example I want to use the whois functi

Re: Bash shell

2003-02-14 Thread Randall R Schulz
Tom, Welcome. If you have a console window as produced by launching the desktop or Start Menu Cygwin icon (as opposed to an RXVT terminal emulator window), then access the window's properties dialog by activating the window menu from the icon in the upper-left of the window's title bar and c

Re: Zsh filename completion sluggishness?

2003-02-14 Thread Matt Armstrong
"Peter A. Castro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've edited your output to show just the interesting things :) > >> CDPATH='' >> FIGNORE='' >> FPATH=/usr/share/zsh/site-functions:/usr/share/zsh/4.0.6/functions >> PATH='.:/usr/bin:/c/WINNT/system32:/c/WINNT:/c/WINNT/System32/Wbem:/i/VCI/RTX >SDK/b

Re: Bash shell

2003-02-14 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Tom Dager (03-02-14 17:37 +0100) > I am VERY new to Cygwin, though not to Linux. bash has nothing to do with Linux, it's a GNU thing. > I [...] was wondering how do I get it so that I can copy and paste something > from a windows window [...] into the bash shell window. This is a FAQ and has

The humble and other editing keys

2003-02-14 Thread Lee D. Rothstein
Since at least 1979, when I started using Warren Montgomery's Emacs on System III UNIX, I have been annoyed with DEC's and RMS's treatment of the (or key as they called it. In those days, I "reconfigured" my keyboard to fix this abortion. I want to do what any self-respecting should do, namely

Re: Zsh filename completion sluggishness?

2003-02-14 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 10:12:54AM -0700, Matt Armstrong wrote: >In the Win32 world, quotes around path elements are valid. If I have: > >PATH="c:\foo bar" > >cmd.exe will find executables in that dir. > >When I run bash or zsh, things in "c:\foo bar" aren't found. This is a UNIX emulation en

Re: The humble and other editing keys

2003-02-14 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Lee D. Rothstein (03-02-14 18:44 +0100) > Since at least 1979, when I started using [...] > I want to do what any self-respecting should do, > namely delete the character at the cursor. > > Anyone know how to do this with Cygwin command line editing? Cygwin doesn't have any command line edit

Re: The humble and other editing keys

2003-02-14 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 07:12:34PM +0100, Thorsten Kampe wrote: >* Lee D. Rothstein (03-02-14 18:44 +0100) >> Since at least 1979, when I started using [...] > >> I want to do what any self-respecting should do, >> namely delete the character at the cursor. >> >> Anyone know how to do this with

Re: The humble and other editing keys

2003-02-14 Thread Elfyn McBratney
> Since at least 1979, when I started using Warren Montgomery's > Emacs on System III UNIX, I have been annoyed with DEC's and > RMS's treatment of the (or key as they called > it. In those days, I "reconfigured" my keyboard to fix this > abortion. > > I want to do what any self-respecting sho

Re: cron and network drives

2003-02-14 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc.) wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi, > > > > is there a possibility to reach the network drives with cron. My > > scripts work fine and can reach the network drives when I execute them > > from command line. With cron there is no effect. Is

Why the rash of people bypassing setup.exe to install?

2003-02-14 Thread Christopher Faylor
I tried an experiment recently where I turned on ftp access to the cygwin download directory on sources.redhat.com. The result seemed to be that people started downloading cygwin's package .tar.bz2 files directly and (somehow) used tar to extract files rather than running setup.exe. So, that expe

Re: Why the rash of people bypassing setup.exe to install?

2003-02-14 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Christopher Faylor wrote: > I tried an experiment recently where I turned on ftp access to the > cygwin download directory on sources.redhat.com. The result seemed > to be that people started downloading cygwin's package .tar.bz2 files > directly and (somehow) used tar to ext

Re: Zsh filename completion sluggishness?

2003-02-14 Thread Matt Armstrong
Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 10:12:54AM -0700, Matt Armstrong wrote: >>In the Win32 world, quotes around path elements are valid. If I have: >> >>PATH="c:\foo bar" >> >>cmd.exe will find executables in that dir. >> >>When I run bash or zsh, things i

Re: Why the rash of people bypassing setup.exe to install?

2003-02-14 Thread Elfyn McBratney
> On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Christopher Faylor wrote: > > > I tried an experiment recently where I turned on ftp access to the > > cygwin download directory on sources.redhat.com. The result seemed > > to be that people started downloading cygwin's package .tar.bz2 files > > directly and (somehow) used

Re: Why the rash of people bypassing setup.exe to install?

2003-02-14 Thread Randall R Schulz
At 10:34 2003-02-14, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Christopher Faylor wrote: > ... > > Can anyone offer any explanation about this? Or maybe convince me that > I'm wrong in noticing this trend? I suppose that it is possible that > we are now hitting a newer stupider brand of use

Re: cron and network drives

2003-02-14 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc.)
Igor Pechtchanski wrote: On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc.) wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, is there a possibility to reach the network drives with cron. My scripts work fine and can reach the network drives when I execute them from command line. With cron there is no e

RE: Problem with accept(2) on the 1003.20.0.0 release

2003-02-14 Thread jeff_burch
Dear Tino and the rest of the Cygwin community, I made a post yesterday (2/13) on this problem and posted a testAccept.cpp program. By the way, my new version of cygwin and g++ agreed perfectly with Tino's response. Also, tests to use a specific "real" address in the bind( ) call didn't change t

Re: Why the rash of people bypassing setup.exe to install?

2003-02-14 Thread Robert Citek
At 01:26 PM 2/14/2003 -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: >So, that experiment was a bad idea. I turned off access again. Yet, I >still have the feeling that many people are downloading packages >directly (from mirrors I suppose) and then we get to experience the >maddening "I downloaded foo and it

Re: Problem with accept(2) on the 1003.20.0.0 release

2003-02-14 Thread Elfyn McBratney
> Dear Tino and the rest of the Cygwin community, > > I made a post yesterday (2/13) on this problem and posted a testAccept.cpp program. By the way, my new version of cygwin and g++ agreed perfectly with Tino's response. Also, tests to use a specific "real" address in the bind( ) call didn't chang

Re: The humble and other editing keys

2003-02-14 Thread Lee D. Rothstein
Elfyn, Thanks. See my comments and further questions, below. At 2003-02-14 06:18 PM +, Elfyn McBratney wrote: > I want to do what any self-respecting > should do, namely delete the character at the cursor. In bash you can add the following # DEL key in bash "\e[3~": delete-char to you

Re: Why the rash of people bypassing setup.exe to install?

2003-02-14 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 01:34:59PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: >On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Christopher Faylor wrote: > >> I tried an experiment recently where I turned on ftp access to the >> cygwin download directory on sources.redhat.com. The result seemed >> to be that people started downloading

Re: Why the rash of people bypassing setup.exe to install?

2003-02-14 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 06:39:47PM -, Elfyn McBratney wrote: >Well, Gary (Gary R. Van Sickle) is the maintainer of that page, so Ack. I missed that fact. Don't send Gary email about this! I'm sure he doesn't need it. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simp

Re: Bash shell

2003-02-14 Thread Randall R Schulz
Hello, Fellow Curmudgeons, I think we're really getting the tag-team meanness down to a fine art, aren't we? Or is it "good cop / bad cop?" It has recently come to my attention that some people think the Cygwin list is exceptionally unfriendly to the uninitiated. Of course, I'd just like to t

Re: The humble and other editing keys

2003-02-14 Thread Elfyn McBratney
> * ~/.inputrc works. /etc/inputrc doesn't. Why? Aaaah my cockpit error :-) Bash only checks for the existence of the user's or individuals' readline initialisation file. > * Is there documentation for this? Specific to Cygwin? Or, >not necessary due to complete compatibility. Does >t

Re: The humble and other editing keys

2003-02-14 Thread Elfyn McBratney
> > * ~/.inputrc works. /etc/inputrc doesn't. Why? > > Aaaah my cockpit error :-) Bash only checks for the existence of the > user's or individuals' readline initialisation file. > > > * Is there documentation for this? Specific to Cygwin? Or, > >not necessary due to complete compatibility.

Re: Zsh filename completion sluggishness?

2003-02-14 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 11:38:06AM -0700, Matt Armstrong wrote: >Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 10:12:54AM -0700, Matt Armstrong wrote: >>>In the Win32 world, quotes around path elements are valid. If I have: >>> >>>PATH="c:\foo bar" >>> >>>cmd.exe

Re: Why the rash of people bypassing setup.exe to install?

2003-02-14 Thread Elfyn McBratney
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 06:39:47PM -, Elfyn McBratney wrote: > >Well, Gary (Gary R. Van Sickle) is the maintainer of that page, so > > Ack. I missed that fact. > > Don't send Gary email about this! I'm sure he doesn't need it. Ops! Too late! ;-) Only kiddin' I'm sure that's not a w

Re: Why the rash of people bypassing setup.exe to install?

2003-02-14 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 07:55:57PM -, Elfyn McBratney wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 06:39:47PM -, Elfyn McBratney wrote: >> >Well, Gary (Gary R. Van Sickle) is the maintainer of that page, so >> >> Ack. I missed that fact. >> >> Don't send Gary email about this! I'm sure he doesn'

Re: Why the rash of people bypassing setup.exe to install?

2003-02-14 Thread Elfyn McBratney
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 06:39:47PM -, Elfyn McBratney wrote: > >Well, Gary (Gary R. Van Sickle) is the maintainer of that page, so > > Ack. I missed that fact. > > Don't send Gary email about this! I'm sure he doesn't need it. Ops! Too late! ;-) Only kiddin' I'm sure that's not a w

Re: Bash shell

2003-02-14 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc.)
Randall R Schulz wrote: Hello, Fellow Curmudgeons, I think we're really getting the tag-team meanness down to a fine art, aren't we? Or is it "good cop / bad cop?" It has recently come to my attention that some people think the Cygwin list is exceptionally unfriendly to the uninitiated. Of co

Re: The humble and other editing keys

2003-02-14 Thread Randall R Schulz
Lee, We don't approve of all that humor hereabouts. This one _is_ documented in the BASH manual page. Here's the binding I use: "\M-[3~": delete-char # Delete When you find this Readline action in the BASH manual page, you'll find all the other goodies you can program into B

Re: Why the rash of people bypassing setup.exe to install?

2003-02-14 Thread Elfyn McBratney
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 07:55:57PM -, Elfyn McBratney wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 06:39:47PM -, Elfyn McBratney wrote: > >> >Well, Gary (Gary R. Van Sickle) is the maintainer of that page, so > >> > >> Ack. I missed that fact. > >> > >> Don't send Gary email about this! I'm

Re: Bash shell

2003-02-14 Thread Elfyn McBratney
> Randall R Schulz wrote: > > Hello, Fellow Curmudgeons, > > > > I think we're really getting the tag-team meanness down to a fine art, > > aren't we? > > > > Or is it "good cop / bad cop?" > > > > It has recently come to my attention that some people think the Cygwin > > list is exceptionally unfr

Re: bash shell

2003-02-14 Thread Fred_Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/14/2003 03:14:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Fred Smith/Computrition) Subject: cygwin Digest 14 Feb 2003 20:14:39 - Issue 2563 > > It has recently come to my attention that some people think the Cygwin > > list is exceptionally unfriendly to the uni

Re: Why the rash of people bypassing setup.exe to install?

2003-02-14 Thread Peter A. Castro
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 07:55:57PM -, Elfyn McBratney wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 06:39:47PM -, Elfyn McBratney wrote: > >> >Well, Gary (Gary R. Van Sickle) is the maintainer of that page, so > >> > >> Ack. I missed that fact. >

Re: The humble and other editing keys

2003-02-14 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Elfyn McBratney (03-02-14 19:52 +0100) > One thing that I forgot: Bash does have a system-wide inputrc but you have > to define an environment variable to the location of the file, INPUTRC > > export INPUTRC=/etc/inputrc bash doesn't have a "system-wide inputrc" (although you /could/ make one

Re: Bash shell

2003-02-14 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc.)
Elfyn McBratney wrote: Randall R Schulz wrote: Hello, Fellow Curmudgeons, I think we're really getting the tag-team meanness down to a fine art, aren't we? Or is it "good cop / bad cop?" It has recently come to my attention that some people think the Cygwin list is exceptionally unfriendly to

RE: cron - Error starting a service: QueryServiceStatus: Win32 error 1062:

2003-02-14 Thread Harig, Mark A.
Yes, that's unusual. I think I'll leave out a check for this problem at this time. I wonder if anyone knows of a general purpose tool for checking the validity or sanity of the /etc/group and /etc/passwd files? Have you tried adding 'SYSTEM' to group 544 via the /etc/group file? > -Original

Re: bash shell

2003-02-14 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc.)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/14/2003 03:14:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Fred Smith/Computrition) Subject: cygwin Digest 14 Feb 2003 20:14:39 - Issue 2563 It has recently come to my attention that some people think the Cygwin list is exceptionally un

Re: Bash shell

2003-02-14 Thread Elfyn McBratney
> Elfyn McBratney wrote: > >>Randall R Schulz wrote: > >> > >>>Hello, Fellow Curmudgeons, > >>> > >>>I think we're really getting the tag-team meanness down to a fine art, > >>>aren't we? > >>> > >>>Or is it "good cop / bad cop?" > >>> > >>>It has recently come to my attention that some people thin

Re: Why the rash of people bypassing setup.exe to install?

2003-02-14 Thread John M. Adams
Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I tried an experiment recently where I turned on ftp access to the > cygwin download directory on sources.redhat.com. The result seemed > to be that people started downloading cygwin's package .tar.bz2 files > directly and (somehow) used tar to ext

Re: Why the rash of people bypassing setup.exe to install?

2003-02-14 Thread andrew clarke
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 01:26:15PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: > I tried an experiment recently where I turned on ftp access to the > cygwin download directory on sources.redhat.com. The result seemed > to be that people started downloading cygwin's package .tar.bz2 files > directly and (som

Re: Why the rash of people bypassing setup.exe to install?

2003-02-14 Thread andrew clarke
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 12:15:05PM -0800, Peter A. Castro wrote: > > I don't think people are actually reading that paragraph at all, though. I > > think that's part of the problem. > > As a preventative measure, how about adding some embedded tags into the > cygwin.com home or install pages so

Re: Bash shell

2003-02-14 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Randall R Schulz (03-02-14 18:28 +0100) > I think we're really getting the tag-team meanness down to a fine art, > aren't we? > > Or is it "good cop / bad cop?" I don't see your point. I stated that there is no Linux nor Cygwin nor Windows nor BSD bash. It's just GNU bash and if you have a "

Re: Why the rash of people bypassing setup.exe to install?

2003-02-14 Thread andrew clarke
On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 07:50:48AM +1100, andrew clarke wrote: > Section 2 of the FAQ might also put people off using Setup because it's > described as a "work-in-progress" and seemingly a bit of a moving target. Actually, just out of interest, will new Setup programs always be backward-compatibl

Re: Why the rash of people bypassing setup.exe to install?

2003-02-14 Thread Elfyn McBratney
> Christopher Faylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I tried an experiment recently where I turned on ftp access to the > > cygwin download directory on sources.redhat.com. The result seemed > > to be that people started downloading cygwin's package .tar.bz2 files > > directly and (somehow) used

RE: Problem with accept(2) on the 1003.20.0.0 release

2003-02-14 Thread jeff_burch
Cheers to Elfyn! > Do you by any chance have any firewall software running on the daemon'ish > machine? ZoneAlaram perhaps? > > > Regards, > > Elfyn McBratney > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.exposure.org.uk I had version 3.21 of Aventail's connect SW installed on the problem machine. I removed it, re

Re: Problem with accept(2) on the 1003.20.0.0 release

2003-02-14 Thread Elfyn McBratney
> Cheers to Elfyn! > > > > Do you by any chance have any firewall software running on the daemon'ish > > machine? ZoneAlaram perhaps? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Elfyn McBratney > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > www.exposure.org.uk > > I had version 3.21 of Aventail's connect SW installed on the problem m

Re: Why the rash of people bypassing setup.exe to install?

2003-02-14 Thread Max Bowsher
andrew clarke wrote: > On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 07:50:48AM +1100, andrew clarke wrote: > >> Section 2 of the FAQ might also put people off using Setup because >> it's described as a "work-in-progress" and seemingly a bit of a >> moving target. > > Actually, just out of interest, will new Setup progr

Re: Why the rash of people bypassing setup.exe to install?

2003-02-14 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc.)
andrew clarke wrote: On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 07:50:48AM +1100, andrew clarke wrote: Section 2 of the FAQ might also put people off using Setup because it's described as a "work-in-progress" and seemingly a bit of a moving target. Actually, just out of interest, will new Setup programs always

Re: Bash shell

2003-02-14 Thread Randall R Schulz
Thorsten, At 13:01 2003-02-14, Thorsten Kampe wrote: * Randall R Schulz (03-02-14 18:28 +0100) > I think we're really getting the tag-team meanness down to a fine art, > aren't we? > > Or is it "good cop / bad cop?" I don't see your point. I stated that there is no Linux nor Cygwin nor Windows

Re: Why the rash of people bypassing setup.exe to install?

2003-02-14 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 12:15:05PM -0800, Peter A. Castro wrote: >On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Christopher Faylor wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 07:55:57PM -, Elfyn McBratney wrote: >> >> On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 06:39:47PM -, Elfyn McBratney wrote: >> >> >Well, Gary (Gary R. Van Sickle) is the

Re: Why the rash of people bypassing setup.exe to install?

2003-02-14 Thread andrew clarke
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 03:45:37PM +, John M. Adams wrote: > How do you get just 1 package via setup.exe? When you reach the Select Packages dialog of setup.exe, hit the View button (the tiny one on the upper-right...). In the table there is a column called "New" (I don't know why it's calle

Re: Why the rash of people bypassing setup.exe to install?

2003-02-14 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 07:50:48AM +1100, andrew clarke wrote: >On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 01:26:15PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: > >> I tried an experiment recently where I turned on ftp access to the >> cygwin download directory on sources.redhat.com. The result seemed >> to be that people sta

Re: Why the rash of people bypassing setup.exe to install?

2003-02-14 Thread Randall R Schulz
Chris, At 13:59 2003-02-14, Christopher Faylor wrote: On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 07:50:48AM +1100, andrew clarke wrote: >On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 01:26:15PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: > >> ... > >If I may, speaking on behalf of some of the less-technical Cygwin users, >some points: > >Obviously

Re: Why the rash of people bypassing setup.exe to install?

2003-02-14 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 02:21:18PM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote: >Chris, > >At 13:59 2003-02-14, Christopher Faylor wrote: >>On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 07:50:48AM +1100, andrew clarke wrote: >>>On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 01:26:15PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote: >>> ... >>> >>>If I may, speaking

Re: Why the rash of people bypassing setup.exe to install?

2003-02-14 Thread Rolf Campbell
Well, I maintain an internal mirror for my company, and I use a custom python script to parse our custom setup.ini and fetch the needed packages. But, I never used sources.redhat.com. "Christopher Faylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I tried a

Re: Why the rash of people bypassing setup.exe to install?

2003-02-14 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 05:31:05PM -0500, Rolf Campbell wrote: >Well, I maintain an internal mirror for my company, and I use a custom >python script to parse our custom setup.ini and fetch the needed packages. >But, I never used sources.redhat.com. So, translation: "I have no insight into the pro

Re: Why the rash of people bypassing setup.exe to install?

2003-02-14 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 09:28, Christopher Faylor wrote: > > You know, I almost mentioned that but I think that someone (Robert > Collins maybe?) may have suggested this previously and I adamantly > intoned that these were ".tar.bz2 files dammit". We had a long thread on cygwin-apps about this ~

How to convert unicode to Big5 using iconv

2003-02-14 Thread jklcom
Can someone show me some examples on how to use iconv_open and iconv to do conversion between unicode and big5? Thank you -Jeff -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.htm

Re: Why the rash of people bypassing setup.exe to install?

2003-02-14 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 08:59, Christopher Faylor wrote: > I suppose so, but, again, it seems like many people *recently* are unaware > of the setup program entirely. Hmm, I think we should add a new screen to setup.exe. After the install completes.. "Your cygwin install is now ready to use. Ple

Re: Why the rash of people bypassing setup.exe to install?

2003-02-14 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 08:31, andrew clarke wrote: > On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 03:45:37PM +, John M. Adams wrote: > > > How do you get just 1 package via setup.exe? ... > So, to install a single package you will want to mark everything you > already have installed as Keep, and everything else as

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